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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

oh Turkey, you goofball! πŸ™ˆ 😜

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Interesting how, aside from Isreal, the rest of the countries that now have a more favourable view of the US (India, Nigeria and South-Africa) have an English speaking population because of colonialism. Maybe the propaganda reached them better? Doesn't hold up for Canada, Australia & New Zealand though.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kenya is also an ex-British colony with a small minority of L1 English speakers and a substantial presence of L2 English speakers, so I don't know if language can explain it so easily

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

so I don't know if language can explain it so easily

Couldn't be a single explanation, and quite likely language isn't the main one indeed. Turkey doesn't have many English speakers as well.

But i do think it matters whether a people is able to consume news from the source because of the language they speak. In Europe for example, where in the east there is quite some (L2) Russian speakers opposed to western european countries, that makes it easier for Russia to spread a favourable view.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

all those countries are fairly conservative or have large conservative populations

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That could play a part, but same holds true for Poland and Japan.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

there are a different type of conservatism. Nigeria has Christian fundamentalist conservatism so they love Trump's anti-gay and anti-abortion government. India is hyper pro-capitalist so they love billionaires owning everything. South America is pro-apartheid and they mostly love Elon Musk.

Japan is conservative in a social sense that doesn't include religion. they don't mesh with trump's America. Poland should love Trump, so not sure what's happening there other than they're concerned about his pro-Russia stance. that said the polish government doesn't seem popular with its people so maybe it is a case of them having a conservative government but not a conservative population.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nigeria has Christian fundamentalist conservatism so they love Trump's anti-gay and anti-abortion government. India is hyper pro-capitalist so they love billionaires owning everything.

These first two sound totally more believable than my theory about language, but

South America is pro-apartheid and they mostly love Elon Musk.

Assuming you meant South Africa, you totally lost me here. The major major majority of people in South Africa are black, they are not pro-apartheid. Neither is the biggest political party, which you might know because it was the the party of Nelson Mandela (that dude that fought apartheid his entire life). I don't think there is any country so not fond of Musk as South Africa (aside from a very small percentage that might totally love him). Although it likely isn't totally unrelated that Musk is from SA.

Poland should love Trump

They might have if Trump wasn't so supportive of their previous occupier, the hate against Russia in former Sovjet states runs deep.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Fair enough. yeah my south African one was a guess that there might be a large population of conservative holdouts but I'm afraid I don't know much about the country in recent years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

The same CambridgeAnalytica/facebook/murdoch pithing machine that ate the red states is already in all those countries and growing quickly.

We should have learned our lessons about media literacy but we did not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All but 1 of them are run by fascist dictatorships, some in all but name. Nigeria is the exception, but they're overrun with evangelicals, and will move in that direction soon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

South Africa is not a fascist dictatorship, what?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

True, though the apartheid times were.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

That was decades ago

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That one I can understand, since the US is normalizing relations with Syria now that they’re in Turkey’s sphere. India I’m not too surprised by either in the context of their fighting with Pakistan. Wondering why Nigeria’s view has improved, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

"It's only okay if we vote in an authoritarian asshole for a leader!"