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oh Turkey, you goofball! π π
Interesting how, aside from Isreal, the rest of the countries that now have a more favourable view of the US (India, Nigeria and South-Africa) have an English speaking population because of colonialism. Maybe the propaganda reached them better? Doesn't hold up for Canada, Australia & New Zealand though.
Kenya is also an ex-British colony with a small minority of L1 English speakers and a substantial presence of L2 English speakers, so I don't know if language can explain it so easily
Couldn't be a single explanation, and quite likely language isn't the main one indeed. Turkey doesn't have many English speakers as well.
But i do think it matters whether a people is able to consume news from the source because of the language they speak. In Europe for example, where in the east there is quite some (L2) Russian speakers opposed to western european countries, that makes it easier for Russia to spread a favourable view.
all those countries are fairly conservative or have large conservative populations
That could play a part, but same holds true for Poland and Japan.
there are a different type of conservatism. Nigeria has Christian fundamentalist conservatism so they love Trump's anti-gay and anti-abortion government. India is hyper pro-capitalist so they love billionaires owning everything. South America is pro-apartheid and they mostly love Elon Musk.
Japan is conservative in a social sense that doesn't include religion. they don't mesh with trump's America. Poland should love Trump, so not sure what's happening there other than they're concerned about his pro-Russia stance. that said the polish government doesn't seem popular with its people so maybe it is a case of them having a conservative government but not a conservative population.
These first two sound totally more believable than my theory about language, but
Assuming you meant South Africa, you totally lost me here. The major major majority of people in South Africa are black, they are not pro-apartheid. Neither is the biggest political party, which you might know because it was the the party of Nelson Mandela (that dude that fought apartheid his entire life). I don't think there is any country so not fond of Musk as South Africa (aside from a very small percentage that might totally love him). Although it likely isn't totally unrelated that Musk is from SA.
They might have if Trump wasn't so supportive of their previous occupier, the hate against Russia in former Sovjet states runs deep.
Fair enough. yeah my south African one was a guess that there might be a large population of conservative holdouts but I'm afraid I don't know much about the country in recent years.
The same CambridgeAnalytica/facebook/murdoch pithing machine that ate the red states is already in all those countries and growing quickly.
We should have learned our lessons about media literacy but we did not.
All but 1 of them are run by fascist dictatorships, some in all but name. Nigeria is the exception, but they're overrun with evangelicals, and will move in that direction soon.
South Africa is not a fascist dictatorship, what?
True, though the apartheid times were.
That was decades ago
That one I can understand, since the US is normalizing relations with Syria now that theyβre in Turkeyβs sphere. India Iβm not too surprised by either in the context of their fighting with Pakistan. Wondering why Nigeriaβs view has improved, though.
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