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NYC's Congestion Pricing Has Caused 'Quality-of-Life Improvement' in Just Six Months (www.commondreams.org)

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After six months, the policy of tolling drivers has reduced traffic and raised hundreds of millions of dollars for the city's transit system. But the Trump administration is still trying to shut it down.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So poor people pay an even more disproportionate amount of their income to use a car, for many of whom it is a necessity. The rich get less traffic, the poor just have to take whatever crumbs they can afford.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The $9 congestion toll is nothing compared to the cost of parking in Manhattan. Gothamist, and other media outlets, did the legwork on this: The congestion toll applies to approximately zero poor people; they're not driving into the city. But tens of thousands of lower-income people benefit from improved bus service, subway upgrades, and less danger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm lower middle class and would like to take my family to visit NYC someday. It just got more expensive for us.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This kind of selfish thinking is exactly why the world is always on fire. Sorry you’ll have to pay a little more to go on vacation with your four kids. What a hard life you live.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't have four kids.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You’ve missed the point of my reply but fine, when you said traveling as 6 in another comment, I incorrectly assumed it was you, your partner, and four children.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly you wouldn't want to drive there as a visitor. Like, you wouldn't be driving from spot to spot, that would be a nightmare.

Hopefully they have decent medium term parking garage on the outskirts, then you could park and then transit/walk/uber/taxi. That would be ideal.

Edit: or I guess just park at your hotel for the entire stay. That would be even easier....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah we visited Toronto recently and just parked at the hotel the whole time. When you're traveling with 6, a car is cheaper than flying in plus you're not as limited on luggage. New York isn't that far from us and I've been upstate but never to NYC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By what percent? And, why would even want to take a car into lower Manhattan?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I'd want to drive to my hotel or Airbnb and walk everywhere once I got there. We're usually traveling with 6 people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Only problem I see is that if the public transit gets better then fewer people will drive, thus lowering revenue.

I’m gonna take my car to Manhattan just to help pay for busses, $9 at a time.