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Do you believe that the people should be able to have guns to protect themselves, or should the police have the sole authority to own and posess guns to protect the people? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 4 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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(As a general concept of how a society should run, not intended as a US-specific question.)

I sometimes see people on the internet saying that giving people easy access to guns is too risky and there should be stricter gun control, while simultaneously wanting to abolish the police? I'm just confused on what people really want?

You cant both abolish the police and then also disarm the citizens, gotta pick one. So which is it, internet? Self-policing with guns? Or reform the police?

[Please state what country you're in]

::: spoiler

(Also its funny how the far-right of the US is both pro-gun and pro-police, I'm confused by that as well) :::

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

USA citizen here (unfortunately)

Guns are designed to kill, or at least cause harm.

I don't think we should kill, or even cause the kind of harm that guns inflict.

∴ Guns shouldn't exist.

I recognize this is a super idealistic approach, but this is just a "general concept of how a society should run."

Yes, I'm taking into account hunting. We shouldn't be killing non-human animals either. Sports is a more difficult problem to tackle for me, I recognize others like shooting for sporting events, and it's not causing harm inherently. Might even be safer than American football, lol.

Having said that, a more realistic approach would be a gun buy back program and a slow phase out of guns for our police or at least a reduction / demilitarization of our police. I have no hope that this will happen, but wow, it'd be nice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

For the US I feel like this is a lost cause. Good luck trying to repeal the 2nd amendment. Cat's out of the bag, the gun discussion happened in 1789, we're like 249 years late. How do you close the pandora's box?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I mean a potential path could be a narrowing of how a "well regulated Militia" is defined. But I agree, it's a fully lost cause.

What's the point of an organized society and a government anyway? Not to care for each other and reduce harm, right? /s