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next time my job asks me to install teams on my phone, I'm gonna hand them a list of rental costs for access to my phone/internet and to cover any security related issues.
I told them my os is non standard, Graphene, and if they need anything more than 2fa codes, it'd need to be on one of their devices.
My company stopped allowing OTP and required Microsoft Authenticator on personal phones. I was one of the few to refuse, eventually they gave me a Fido key. While I also use a less Google version of Android, I didn't talk about that when it was happened, just the principal that this is my phone, not the companies.
One of my previous jobs required we updated our personal phones and ticked a box in a document every month so that the company chat app was "on a secure environment/device".
I normally keep my phone up to date, but my employer shouldn't be telling me what to do with my private phone. I removed the company chat app since I didn't want to comply with them controlling my personal devices.
After that they couldn't reach me after hours. Great. After about 6 months they allowed me to use the chat app on my private phone again without insight or control over it. It may sound petty, but I think it's an important distinction.
I have been doing that too for years: I tolerate Gmail for my work account because I like having updates on my phone, and the 2FA go in my own Bitwarden account. I refuse anything else.
Why would they ask to install something on my phone? It's my phone, not theirs.
They could ask, but I think that's all they can do with my phone.
I'm fine with it, since they pay my phone bill if I have it installed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why are you using your own phone for work?
I actually like the flexibility, but Teams is installed in a work profile that I created. This way I can turn it off when the work day is over. Very useful!
You know you can have that flexibility with a work phone, right? Without them monitoring, and controlling your device?
How are they monitoring and controlling my device when they don't have MDM access to it? Again, I created the work profile myself. All my company IT could have access to are the Microsoft apps I've installed in the work profile which is separated & turned off when I don't need it.
If I have a second phone, I need to keep it charged, remember to take it with me, and to turn it off after work. With everything integrated into my private phone it's much easier for me.
What is the issue if you have it all under your work account and your IT team uses something like Meraki? Im also not at all worried about my work being malicious on my phone, it's not a huge corporation. But I don't see much issue there.