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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

And every general election I have said this. But the british public on the whole are idiots

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Same everywhere, including Ontario where I’m from. People complained nonstop about what our Premiere did to the province and then there was the lowest turnout in election history and he got elected to another majority. Something like 50% of people didn’t show up and we had mail in ballots, couldn’t be easier. Embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's the same in Portugal. Everything has become shit(tier) after 8 years of centre-left PS, but vote intentions are still leaning towards them.

Democracy is a beautiful thing: people get exactly what they deserve.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Except the UK doesn't have democracy. It has first past the post voting, which does not reflect the will of the people and leads to millions of votes being wasted

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I disagree there. People can only work from the information they are presented with. The problem is with the establishment and how they protect their own.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That was true in the stone age. Today everyone has access to all the information and they can make up their minds. If they don't - it's on them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You have to be pretty naïve to think everyone takes the time to get good information. Murdoch has built an empire on the exact opposite of this premise. He seems to be doing ok out of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm sorry but if you're getting your media from Murdoch then that's on you. The fact that him and his publications are essentially propaganda for the conservative party is public knowledge. If you haven't absorbed that from the ether then you're a particularly unaware person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That is precisely my point. There are plenty who do not have that understanding. Old people especially do not have a clue about alternative media sources. The Tory premise is to rely on ignorance. This is why they tell so many lies in PMQs.

British media was something that the world relied on for an honest opinion with honest facts. Not everyone has caught onto the corrupt that is in it presently. To stand and say well they should know better is just plain crass. We need media reform, but until we get it then we will have people who are swayed by fake news.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's on people who "don't have time".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When a country is pushing people to work multiple jobs to make ends ofc they do not have time. What a selfish, moronic thing to state.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No one is pushing anyone to do anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The British public have had it so easy for so long, that they have become very passive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Well, that's definitely true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's FPTP. Only 43.6% voted for this. The majority didn't vote for this.