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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Step down off your high horse son, you have made a lot of strange assumptions about the intent of my statement and who I am, and they are all completely off-base.

Literally just pointing out that their goal was to make money, and they didn't care about the results. Their goal was not to destroy the planet like some sort of cartoon villain, the real villain was chasing money. I am not pro-oil or trying to defend these assholes, honestly the fact that killing the planet was incidental damns them even more.

Seriously though you gotta step the fuck off with this hateful and off-base bullshit, you have totally alienated me so you could go on your "brave" rant, when I am literally on your side and not any of the things you described me as in any way.

Wake the fuck up and treat people like humans instead of spreading needless hate online.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally just pointing out that their goal was to make money, and they didn’t care about the results. Their goal was not to destroy the planet like some sort of cartoon villain, the real villain was chasing money.

They KNEW they were going to destroy the planet, they still did it to make money. How is that not literally Captain Planet villain shit?!?!?!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you literally not see how doing it incidentally is worse?

They literally burned the planet down just to make more money, it wasn't even a calculation to them, they had to do this for the sake of money.

Some evil villain insanely plotting in a mountain lair didn't destroy the planet, there wasn't a league of evil wearing flashy costumes, it was a bunch of "normal" people wearing grey suits, sitting in an office soberly making these decisions because the money required them to, their entire business operation depends on it.

The real villain is money, and my real issue is being screamed and accused at for trying to point this out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And the reason you're getting push back is because that is because yes we get it, capitalism is the arch vampire, but it's avatars in the boardrooms wearing the suits are still "real villain."

If the science was ambiguous they could claim they just did it for money and didn't care, but they fucking KNEW. Seriously go watch an episode of captain planet and tell me how it's different than actual cartoon villainy...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

"Pushback"

You lunatics need to calm the fuck down, you alienate anyone that doesn't fall into your ridiculous hivemind with personal attacks and toxic behaviour.

Literally quibbling over semantics and it immediately becomes personal and hateful.

I am done with all of you, there is no discussion only vile behaviour.