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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The rule of law in a specific geographic area in a specific period of time isn't nearly as important as the meaning conveyed which is misleading.

Rather than missing the forest for the trees, why might he push for the title of founder? Why might some discredit his efforts and tactics in assuming the founder of title in specific contexts?

He did not play a meaningful role in the beginning of the company and is not responsible for its success. Money was responsible, the two founders' expertise was responsible, that specific person is not special enough for their contribution to matter much. Anyone can supply capital especially during the inflated economic conditions (of which we are suffering the consequences of now) and during the time where EV and technology at large was developed enough to allow such developments to take place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds like nobody played much of a role at all until ol' moneybags showed up. Money talks, bullshit walks as they say

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's work that does the work, a tautology, I think using money as a proxy for work is a convenient hop and skip. When it comes down to a rigorous analysis (of the kind say a climate scientist does in a life-cycle assessment money is to vague a reason. What does it represent? Some amount of gold? Well, the US dollar is no longer pegged to gold à la Bretton Woods, how then does 'money talk'?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

He did not play a meaningful role in the beginning of the company and is not responsible for its success. Money was responsible

You say that, but applies just as well to the first 2 founders.

the two founders' expertise was responsible

What expertise? Seriously, tell me what they actually brought to the table aside from pitching their idea for a company and attracting venture capitalist money. They registered the name of a company and had ideas. Not expertise. They hired the expertise, with Musk's money.

Speaking of missing the forest for the trees, tell me this: Is an automotive company "founded" as soon as someone registers the name, or when they begin actual engineering efforts towards building an automobile?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was elon choosing who was hired, and managing the initial company team?

Cause if writing the title and coming up with the ideas doesnt count as founding, giving up some cash doesnt either. Thats just buying a company, not founding it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes? That's basically what the initial 5 cofounders/investors did. Start hiring people and managing the company. They basically formed the board of directors.

I know you're desperate to paint Musk in a bad light in any way possible, but how do you pretend that Musk just handed over cash and did nothing else while other people are calling him a micromanaging control freak?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did musk hire expertise? Or do the actual engineering?

It sounds like your actual argument is that neither he nor they founded the company.

I guess it just sprang into existence on its own...

[–] I_dont_believe_it 4 points 1 year ago

See I'd tend to think that founding a company has to be more than just registering a name. Like maybe that's the dictionary definition, but it seems a bit weak if that's it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was meaning to respond but I think other's have. I have one of those 30+ min YouTube videos or similarly ridiculously long blog posts (and a longform article somewhere...) though I think you might not be interested so I'll keep it to myself unless you are interested in a good faith argument (argument, root word is the latin argumentum, to make clear; prove), I would rather not waste your time or my breath if that isn't the case.