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[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 375 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If you ever needed a lesson in the difference between power and authority, this is a good one.

The leaders of this coup read the rules and saw that they could use the board to remove Altman, they had the authority to make the move and “win” the game.

It seems that they, like many fools mistook authority for power. The “rules” said they could do it! Alas they did not have the power to execute the coup. All the rules in the world cannot make the organization follow you.

Power comes from people who grant it to you. Authority comes from paper. Authority is the guidelines for the use of power, without power, it is pointless.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 143 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, surely it's premature to be making grand statements like this until it actually causes a reversal?

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but he's like 15 years old. All the moral/ethical fallout he's ever seen have been in movies and tv shows. Let the kid dream.

[–] Melt@lemm.ee 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People don't need to be old to make a good point

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago

Strange women, lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for government!

[–] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I am your king!"

"Well, I didn't vote for you."

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] pobautista@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

[–] iRyu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And my comment is the next line in that exchange.

[–] iRyu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Pardon me I'm a dunce. I'll see myself out ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[–] serial_crusher@lemmy.basedcount.com 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah. Microsoft engineered this whole thing to weaken the boards power and ripen OpenAI up as a less expensive acquisition target.

We don’t yet know the cause of this power struggle, so hard to say of they were trying to stage a coup or trying to prevent something else.

But regardless it appears they dun goofed

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Well fucking said

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is the employees were paid too much. They have too much and aren't desperate enough. Need to drop that pay going forward

[–] TruTollTroll@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No working 8-5/6 pm employee, making under 100k a year, is being paid too much

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One engineer at a company like this produces literally millions of dollars in revenue and savings. Practically no one is paid "too much" and anyone who says they are doesn't know what they're talking about. Even if they make over 100k.

I can assure even at 200k the company would still be extracting value from most employees. They pay as little as the market lets them get away with.

The only people who are paid too much at these tech companies are the execs, especially the ones who have no clue what they're doing and constantly fuck things up.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

$200k a year in Silicon Valley isn't exactly getting anyone a mansion and a yacht.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TruTollTroll@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No I wouldn't be. I work in HR as a Generalist, BS Graduate for business management and human resources management, AND I do payroll..

I see it first hand who is disadvantaged and who is privileged. I see who deserves raises and who didn't do squat for the amount they have been paid (executive teams and presidents/owners) .. Your opinions on who is paid too much, are misguided...

Your username doesn't check out as you clearly are not touching grass

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] fed0sine@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

two Nat 1s?

Snake Eyes?

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Power courses through you.. Authority.