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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the people of the Falklands literally voted to stay with the UK?

[–] anonono@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

[insert obama awarding obama meme here]

I mean the UK won't return Gilbraltar to Spain who were in the EU with them they won't obviously return the falklands.

I'd like to see the UK also defending the "vote of the people" if Ireland voted to leave the UK

[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

return the falklands.

To who, the French?! They're the only ones who settled there before the British (beating them by a whopping 1 year), and they left again two years after they showed up. (And I say "settled there," by the way, because if we went by who discovered it then the only people the British could return it to would be themselves.)

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

To who, the French?!

They claim ownership via Spain's ownership, when Argentina won their independence from Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_dispute

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean the UK won’t return Gilbraltar to Spain who were in the EU with them they won’t obviously return the falklands.

"Return the Falklands"

... do you know the history of the Falklands? At all?

I’d like to see the UK also defending the “vote of the people” if Ireland voted to leave the UK

Ireland literally did, almost a hundred years ago. North Ireland voted to stay. There was a legally binding Scottish referendum on independence a few years back that the UK pledged to abide by. Are you shitting me?

[–] anonono@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You talk like it's a done deal and recent talks about a referendum to revisit never existed.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

I... what?

No, I talk about it like it was literally a "vote of the people" which the UK pledged to abide by, which is what is being discussed.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

He literally did not do that

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Scotland had a vote, a legitimate one. Ireland, as in the Republic, isn't part of the UK.

How can the Falklands be returned? Stop talking about this as if you know anything.

[–] 520@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’d like to see the UK also defending the “vote of the people” if Ireland voted to leave the UK

They literally did. Ireland became its own country 100 years ago. NI wanted to stay with the UK

[–] ravenford@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Well the all island vote wasn't the source of change, a war unfortunately had to follow.

And point of clarification - Ireland didn't "leave the UK" - the British were forced to withdraw from 26 of the 32 counties of Ireland.

"NI" was carved out of the island by Britain holding on to as much industrialised land as they could, with as big a majority of British settlers vs native Irish.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] anonono@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

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