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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would nearly guarantee a win for Trump. Incumbency advantage is strong as is name recognition. I don't like Biden either but he's better than a literal fascist. If Trump wins in 2024 there will not be an election in 2028.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think Biden is a literal fascist.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK, that's an opinion. But Trump and the Republican party is literally trying to take over the government and replace most executive positions. There's no evidence Biden is trying to do that or anything as immediate or exteme.

In that position and in your point of view, they are both fascists. But Trump is a fascist that is trying to commit a coup NOW and Biden isn't.

I am 100% for trying to primary Biden. If there's enough support Biden doesn't win the nomination that'd be great! But abdication or forcing him out just because old is a good way to lose faith in the electorate. A better plan would be to have a VP that is a good presidential candidate in case he has to resign due to age.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not going to be voting for Biden under any foreseeable circumstance. he could forgive my student loan, and gimme that $2k he promised me 3 years ago. I don't think he has the backbone to do either of those, though

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok so a Trump voter then. Or the equivalent. The Republicans get a win from you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not voting for Trump, either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's a two party system. Not voting for one of the two is as good as voting for the one for like least. You're depriving the one who's less bad of a vote. That's how the party system works. You need to put down your principles once we're at the final stage and make the choice that is least worst for you.

To put it in perspective: if it was Biden vs literally dying, would you still not vote for Biden? We're not quite there, but it's close: potential end of democracy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You need to put down your principles

no.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not voting for one of the two is as good as voting for the one for like least.

wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You need to put down your principles

Democrats' only real message to their constituents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thats not entirely fair they also have 'Nothing will fundamentally change' and you know you can believe that one because it's the one they told the people who pay them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Then welcome round 2 of Trump and the final round of democracy. When the blame game happens, people like you and the above spammer will be held to account for your refusal to compromise. You're no better than Republicans. In fact, you are all worse. Because at least Republicans know what they're about. Pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When the blame game happens, people like you and the above spammer will be held to account for your refusal to compromise

I'm voting for Biden. I'm sure that won't stop you from blaming me anyway. Honestly, you'd rather lose and have someone to blame than win by appealing to us worthless voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

we're not a democracy, we never have been, and that's a good thing: democracy is bad.