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If you're sleeping off a night shift and I'm up early I'll be quite as a church mouse. But if you're just laying in bed for no reason then you can deal with the noise of whatever I need to get done
Why? Night owls aren't allowed to sleep until they wake up by themselves?
Morning persons are allowed to fall asleep whenever they want. You don't see us shouting just because you are already asleep before 12 'o clock.
Depends on how far we're talking here. 8pm bedtime? Reasonable. 4pm bedtime? Yeah no I'm not tiptoeing for you.
Similarly, 8am wakeup? Ok I'll tiptoe if I can. Noon? Probably no.
"I only respect people who live similarly to me"
You shouldn't disturb other people whether they're asleep or awake. Buying a pair of slippers or flip flops for indoors and not slamming doors and cupboards isn't exactly a monumental ask at any time of day.
I think that's fair and true so long as both parties can talk about it and come to an agreement and understanding.
8pm bedtime is not reasonable to us. In Belgium the law says we can make noise until 10 before neighbors are allowed to call the police.
So by your logic, I can keep shouting next to the place you try to sleep for an other 2 hours.
I'm very confused by this statement. Does nobody in Belgium really go to bed before 10? If you knew your neighbor had to be up by 4am every day and had a child, and knew they had to go to bed by 8, would you not try to be nice if they were nice in kind?
Never worked nightshifts?
The cleaning crew at the hotel on my last business trips are always extremely noisy. But I've just hit the bed after my shift, some breakfast and a beer.
Would be nice to at least once get 6 full hours of sleep...
I have not but I simpathise for you. I tried to word my reply to indicate that there were cases that didn't follow my rule of thumb... Cases like yours it makes sense to wake up... Frankly whenever.