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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

All the carnivore animals would die out. There would be a huge mass extinction event. The ecosystem would collapse in about 10 to 15 years.

Bees would die out, they require meat products to survive, not many but they do need them. Once the bees go, we would see a massive amounts of plant die off. These are critical to the pollination life cycle.

I don't know how far the effects would reach, but we would probably go back to a planet of algae and lichen in many areas.

Depending on where we draw the line, if microbes can no longer process organic material from animals, the atmosphere would change slowly....

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Industrial food production is entirely unrelated to our ecosystem. Industrial honey producing bees are not the ones we care about. They provide little to the ecosystem. We need wild bees and industrial honey production is replacing them. An industrial pig farm does nothing for wild carnivores. Human consumption is what is destroying the ecosystem today.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you're too lazy to look up the definition of veganism, why waste your time writing such a dumb comment?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Because the title was about not eating meat.. which is a interesting thought experiment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

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Where to start here?