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While I doubt this is as much of an issue for us, as it is for mastadon (the interaction is possible, but not really common I think) the following part:
Is the best argument for defederating from them right from the start IMO. They're forcing their privacy policy on people that might not even have read it just because they interacted on a submission that happened to originate in threads.
Now, I know everything we do here is open. But I don't think it's OK in a moral sense to suck up data from users other than your own to be sold to advertisers. I doubt we have much legal power but we do have the power to stop delivering the data to their door.
What's worse, they'll do it if somebody from Threads interacts with YOU
That's true, but given the numbers it is far more likely to happen the other way I'd expect.
In the long run it probably isn't their plan. They likely want to start gobbling up mostly mastadon (I'm guessing that is their target audience, I never had a twitter account or used mastadon) users to their service. Federation is just a recruitment tool I suspect.
I doubt most current mastodon users would want to use a Facebook product lol
I think the people that are on fediverse applications because they want to get away from these corporate operated megaliths aren't likely to go anywhere. But that's not all the current users, it's probably not even most of the current users. Those people are likely to move if all their friends are there and they cannot see each-other any more via mastadon.
I honestly don't think they want to steal users long term. Much easier to let things remain federated and let the volunteers eat the moderation costs while they monetize the data.
That's not how I understand it'll work though. Each instance is moderating their local users. So they will need to have moderators enough for their own users. The home instance can moderate their users and those actions propagate. Remote admins can moderate remote users but, they will only effect their own instance. I could be wrong, I've not used mastadon. But for kbin/lemmy I've seen edit/delete messages coming through from the owning instance.
If other instances choose not to honour deletes and edits from moderation, then yeah they need to moderate themselves. But I think that's going to be a rare case.
Important to note that right now they have zero in house moderation.
Eeeeeeeeh, how can you launch something you know is going to blow up like this and not be prepared to moderate?
The vibe I get is things were rushed out the door primarily as a shot across the bow to twitter.