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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

India and China are a couple of the biggest polluters. They also just happen to be in an area that will be one of the hardest hit, especially with their size of their population.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They are the biggest producers, but that is because most of the world places their production in China and India. America is the biggest consumer of those products.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It really is the blame game isnt it? Like is it western world fault for buying those goods and the emissions from their production. Or is it the place that allowed those goods to be made there with those emissions? If it wasnt produced would america buy them? If there wasnt american demand would india and/or China produce them?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

China is definitely not one of the highest polluters per capita. And that's also taking into the fact that most of the Western world is produced there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

China is also blasting through their Paris commitments like they're nothing. It's actually absurd how much they're going to beat their Paris commitments by.

Even as China builds new supercritical coal plants, they're tanking utilization of existing coal plants to the point where peak fossil fuel use (according to the IEA) could happen THIS YEAR.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don’t know if you’re attempting to play the fairness card with current emissions while ignoring historical and ignoring per capita but no one’s buying that here.

Assuming everyone is only in it for their own greedy short term gain without care for everyone else

  • US can handle it. Sucks for the rest of the world
  • China is racing for renewables, EVs, rail. They’re going to beat their own record at transitioning a huge economy with huge people
  • India is going to struggle. They already have problems with climate, lack of water, over population, and poverty. They don’t want to obstruct growth by investing in renewable energy, but their own climate, their own people will be among the hardest hit. Now the solution is buying air conditioners for all those people? It may be fair but it’s too late and they can’t afford the cost to their own climate