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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a word for software that does actions without the user's permission or knowledge.

That word is MALWARE

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Every piece of software does things without your permission or knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

If it does what you wanted it to when you installed it, it's doing things with your permission. If what it was going to do was clearly and correctly explained during the download or install process, it's doing things with your knowledge.

It's like a motor vehicle. You don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to be able to give informed consent about driving it, but if it starts rolling away after you park it, you're going to either get it fixed or get a new car.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You understand and give explicit permission for every piece of the kernel?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you trust Microsoft? If you do I might suggest we find you a nice quiet padded room.

Imagine someone attempted to (or even succeeded in) pushing malicious (or even just poor, "bad" code into the kernel. What do you suppose would happen? Oh wait we don't have to imagine. Some people tried, and got admonished publicly.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/30/22410164/linux-kernel-university-of-minnesota-banned-open-source

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Who said anything about trusting Microsoft? No piece of software is going to ask you for permission for every single operation it does. Malware is more than just that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is beyond pedantic. You and everybody else knows exactly what they meant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we're going to call something malware we better be damn sure we understand the definitions of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good news! The original comment provides that!

software that does actions without the user’s permission or knowledge

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet still all software does that!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're delusional. Have a nice day though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Delusional for understanding that all software does things without your explicit permission to do them? Lol ok