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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And its just a coincidence that all of those are imperialist sources

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When choosing between biased anti-Chinese sources from countries with a free press, or biased pro-Chinese sources from countries without a free press, I know which I'm going to choose.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You think western media is free? Lol

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, it's paid for and has biases, but reporters don't get disappeared because they didn't tow a party line.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think Gary Webb or Julian Assange would agree 100% with you on that?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Julian Assange fled from a rape accusation.

And Gary Webb? Really, that's your go to?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lets see what happens with your hero tucker carlson

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lol, the projection is strong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They don’t have to be disappeared. They just get drowned out and discredited. Source.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If you're too good of a journalist you get your car blown up with you in it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In that it is not directly controlled by the state.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Its controlled by the capitalists (the owner), who also happen to control the state (as donors for politicians). Is this free?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I don’t think it’s free but it is free-er . You have an admittedly shitty balance of power between politicians who want to be voted for and capitalists who want to make money and voter/consumers. The population, who as a collective, want excellent public and private services with low prices/ taxes and generally not too concerned how that happens. Don’t get me wrong there are lots of fantastic people in the world and most people I meet I think are genuinely decent. A person is smart but people are dumb.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Western media are often controlled or influenced by the Chinese or Russian government, through their proxies.

Eg.

In July 2014, the Daily Telegraph was criticised for carrying links on its website to pro-Kremlin articles supplied by a Russian state-funded publication that downplayed any Russian involvement in the downing of the passenger jet Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. These had featured on its website as part of a commercial deal, but were later removed. As of 2014,[needs update] the paper was paid £900,000 a year to include the supplement Russia Beyond the Headlines, a publication sponsored by the Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the Russian government's official newspaper. In February 2015, the chief political commentator of the Daily Telegraph, Peter Oborne, resigned. Oborne accused the paper of a "form of fraud on its readers" for its coverage of the bank HSBC in relation to a Swiss tax-dodging scandal that was widely covered by other news media. He alleged that editorial decisions about news content had been heavily influenced by the advertising arm of the newspaper because of commercial interests. Jay Rosen at New York University stated that Oborne's resignation statement was "one of the most important things a journalist has written about journalism lately". Oborne cited other instances of advertising strategy influencing the content of articles, linking the refusal to take an editorial stance on the repression of democratic demonstrations in Hong Kong to the Telegraph's support from China. ... In October 2017, a number of major western news organisations whose coverage had irked Beijing were excluded from Xi Jinping's speech event launching a new politburo. However, the Daily Telegraph had been granted an invitation to the event.

In other words, even western media are also often biased in favour of China.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China isn't any different than "the west" btw

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never said they have a free press. What i pointed at is that western media isnt free

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And I only pointed out that trying to separate "the west" or even "the imperialists" from China is a thought mistake

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake "public opinion" for the benefit of the bourgeoisie.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are correct. But. China controls the press in their country. You really can’t trust news from either side. But the little facts we can glean seems to show that something is happening. Whether ii is a cultural genocide, only time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. But i should mention that israel is carrying out hitler-would-be-proud style genocide and western media isnt talking about it. The only actual trustable sources nowdays are independent local journalists/analysts, and unfortunelly most of them talk only in their languages. Also thats why its so important for the ruling classes to censor the Internet worldwide

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They dont call it a genocide, yet. Maybe electoral consequences will change the narrative, but so far they are still endorsing israels genocide

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And that none of them make the claim that OP suggests.

But this is lemmy.world, facts have no place here. It's all about who can be the louder namecaller.