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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How tf did they seize it? isn't mastodon instance federated? don't the admins own it?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ultimately each country makes the rules for domains under its top level, for those that are named for the country, like .af for Afghanistan. Everything about the instance is intact and can be moved to a different domain.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

@zoostation @i_have_no_enemies Indeed, choosing .af was a bad idea for a LGBT service. But there are other bad choices (people registering names under .social without reading the fine print, which says, among other things, that some lobbies can easily take down domain names)
https://www.eff.org/fr/node/96673

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

yea found a fix by someone else as well

Stéphane Bortzmeyer @[email protected]

@GossiTheDog Since the authoritative name servers still reply; you can also ask the #DNS resolver administrator to forward requests for queer.af to kiki.bunny.net and coco.bunny.net.

did not know they can control domain names,

is it possible to deny them that request? why did maston comply with them?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s got nothing to do with Mastodon—it’s the domain name system. If DNS doesn’t direct the request to the intended server, the server never sees it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how it works... the .af domain is reserved for use by Afganistan by ICANN and the government of Afganistan is the Taliban. Same with the commies on .ml which is reserved for Malaysia.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything else correct. But ml is actually Mali. my is Malaysia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dammit. The whole thing is basically absurd though because these letters mean fuckall in Afghanistan, Mali, and Malaysia and I think URLs can even have unicode now, though idk about tlds

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To be fair, I didn't know ml was Mali, I had to look that up. But I did know Malaysia was my, which was what prompted me to look ml up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@i_have_no_enemies @zoostation Maston? You mean Mastodon? The software did not "comply", it just issues regular DNS requets and the domain name servers for .af now reply NXDOMAIN (No Such Domain) for queer.af.
See https://catnip.article19.org/ (or @b0rk zines).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@i_have_no_enemies @zoostation @b0rk By the way, there is a #DNS client on the fediverse, @DNSresolver See for instance https://mastodon.gougere.fr/@bortzmeyer/111919725507892158 to see a query and the answer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

@i_have_no_enemies Almost every Internet activity start with a #DNS request. So, DNS is often (ab)used for political goals.
Also, domain names are organized in a tree so if you control a domain (in that case .af), you also control all names underneath.
There are social networks that don't rely on the DNS but they have other issues. In the mean time, take DNS seriously and choose your domain name with care.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still have to buy/register a domain name, and I'm assuming in this case, it's through a particular organization that doesn't like that kind of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

domain is centralized and subject to a state power.

is it possible to change that or any other workaround is available?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doubt it. Top level domains by country code were created explicitly for this purpose... for use by and to be managed by the corresponding state.

Wikipedia rabbit hole:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OpenNic have been trying to fix it for a long time, but only people who use their DNS servers can access their domains.

I use their DNS servers on philosophical grounds, but I have literally never come across someone using one of their exclusive domain names.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From what I understand, their own domains are not actually decentralized. Each of them has it's own "authority" that can control what is or is not allowed to be registered. Emercoin domains look more promising, but I am not knowledgeable enough about them to say that they are actually decentralized. I would say that the closest thing to fediverse is DNS system in I2P, there different DNS providers federate with each other and share their records.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some projects to create decentralized DNS systems, but almost no one uses them, so if you try to use them than you limit amount of your potential users drastically.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

it will be useful for websites that are intentionally made to be accessible to a small minority