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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people shitting... on Linux.

Linux is not even the one doing anything wrong but people gotta rag on whoever recommends it as an alternative. This is getting more annoying than however annoying they say Linux users are.

edit: Just to make clear because some folks aren't getting it, this is not an invitation to argue about how you feel about Linux and Linux users. I. don't. fucking. care. I don't even use Linux. Take it to someone who cares.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tbf I get it. Sometimes you just want to be mad.

But like, it's Microsoft's fault.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

"Hey I have a problem with my Samsung"

"Drop it and get an iPhone instead"

This is what you guys are like.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When people tell you to use Linux, they're not telling you that to solve your immediate problem (e.g. your "show desktop" icon has been replaced with a different icon), but they are telling you to get out of your abusive relationship with Microsoft, because that is the real problem: Microsoft does not respect you, the end-user of their product, and this kind of abusive shit will keep happening for as long as you keep using Windows.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who asked you for help with our relationship? I believe someone complained about a random feature change. And here you are. Telling everyone to just fuck off and switch completely. It’s insane.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (12 children)

JFC people like you ... You have like the worst case of Stockholm syndrome I've ever seen. I swear the only reason you are getting so angry and defensive when people recommend Linux is because deep down you know they're speaking the truth.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they are telling you to get out of your abusive relationship with Microsoft

And how well has that worked so far?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For people like me who took that advice: pretty damn great actually, thanks for asking!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How many people have you managed to convert in this thread?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if it's only one, I will have helped one person, unlike you who has only been bitching and moaning.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If that's what you think will improve how the Linux community is perceived, then do go on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This may sound strange to you, but I actually don't give a single fuck about how you perceive things.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Me! Switched to fedora from Windows about 3 years ago and don't regret it one bit. Probably the best decision I've made in regards to personal computing in my adult life.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

More like:

“Hey I have a problem with my Samsung”

"Here's a custom ROM you can install instead" (but also glosses over a lot of the finer decisions that go into whether or not to choose to run a custom ROM)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

iPhone is $999+, Linux is completely free.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you don't have to pay for a +1000$ device to switch to Linux. In most cases, you can just install it in the same machine you have Windows.

It's more like replacing Samsung's Android ROM with a custom ROM. Sure, you'll have to learn new things to use it, but you don't have to buy an iPhone.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, I switched to Linux last year and it cost me $0. No new hardware needed. So not a good metaphor.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Linux isn't a solution if you play competitive multiplayer games, which most people do.

Edit: keep being classy basement trolls, you're only proving my statements about the shittiness of the linux community with every downvote.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

which most people do.

Lolwhut?

Most people who play competitive multiplayer games (a minority of total users) do so on console

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I'm upvoting you because I know what you're trying to say. Personally I don't have a lot of time to game anymore but I vote with my wallet and I try to only buy games on steam that are linux native. I have found a lot of great indy games this way and I don't feel like I'm "missing out". Still, I get it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

there are 3 billion people playing videogames, most of them playing casual af shit like candy crush (https://explodingtopics.com/blog/number-of-gamers).

About "competitive" multiplayer games: have you tried proton? I myself was sticking with Windows untill i eventually tried it.

Linux is not a solution if you have a skill issue. The longer people have this kind of mindset you have, the longer Microsoft will pretend to be a monopolist, the longer they will behave like total shitheads towards their customers.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Lol yeah "most people" definitely do not play competitive multiplayer games. Are the other children in your friend group literally the only other humans you've ever met?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think this meme applies here. The person who's mad isn't the one using Windows. They got mad about a "problem" someone else was having and decided to use it as an excuse to push Linux.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Exactly. The Linux bros are not offering a solution. They are the same people as the “just move” people. Annoying ass trolls.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

'Just switch to Linux' isn't a solution to a problem. It's a tired and lazy ass response that is frankly starting to make me dislike this place.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When "this lemon is too sour" is the problem, maybe "here, try this orange" is the solution. Can you imagine responding like "No! People are always talking about oranges! I'm sick of it and won't try one!" Ridiculous...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Trying an orange is a lot easier than creating a boot USB, copying all your files over to an external hard drive, installing a new OS, fixing weird things like the graphics card having crap performance or the laptop screen brightness not dimming, learning the weird 3 letter file structure, being bogged down by apt-get vs snaps vs flatpak and adding repos (why not search and download an .exe like a normal OS), realizing that your more specialized programs don’t work, etc.

Besides, it’s not just ONE person, seeming everyone says it every time a lemon has a scratch or a blemish or too many seeds. And then they dramatize it by calling it an “abusive relationship”.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup. I’m about over lemmy cause of this shit. Linux bros are worse than vegans.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

OK well if you're looking for the actual solution to the problem brought up in this thread..... here: https://i.imgur.com/nHEcFG2r.png

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

How much more practical it is to complain about users of a different system than the one the thread is about? It got to a point people are doing this preemptively even.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I rarely see that,. But what I see all the time is Linux lovers being toxic fanboys trying to shove their "passion" down everyone's throat. Also, 99% of them being wrong about what it can "offer".

Its a pure superiority complex fanbase.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Complaining about Linux and Linux users happens in every Windows-related thread, and you are doing it right now.

As a slight aside I am also sooo tired of people calling talking about something "shoving down our throats". People talking about someone you don't care for is not physically assaulting you. That expression seems to exist solely for people to wind themselves up over stuff that absolutely doesn't justify that level of outrage.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's shoving down throats when Linux is brought up in every single Windows discussion. The complaints about Linux are in response to Linux users never being able to just let it lie, people aren't just bitching in a void.

This is absolutely not people being mad for people just talking about something. I have an extremely hard time believing you truly believe that is the issue here.

There are countless places to discuss Linux without bringing it into the comments of every Windows post. Windows users are not commenting on every post in the Linux communities about how much more straightforward running Windows is.

It would be like vegan eaters commenting about how good it is to be vegan on every post in food communities that features non-vegan food.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Fanbase because the philosophy is based on owning your computer. If some asshole you don't know needs your trust to run their closed-source-no-one-really-knows-what-it-actually does inside what is no longer really your computer just because you paid for it then here...here's a dum-dum. Hands you a sucker.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Well maybe stop suggesting that the solution to every tiny little cosmetic inconvenience is to completely switch operating systems to one that has notoriously flakey hardware support.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would say "notoriously flakey hardware support" is a false statement these days

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Nope, still true of the last time I tried Linux last year. The sound system stopped working after every reboot, and clicking the distro's built-in update button completely trashed the system.

But it doesn't have an AI button in the corner, so I guess that solves my problem!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes notoriously flakey hardware support. Like Microsoft doesn't used it to power their entire cloud platform. The hardware support argument is dying tbh used to be true about 20 years ago

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Nope, still true of the last time I tried Linux last year. The sound system stopped working after every reboot, and clicking the distro's built-in update button completely trashed the system.

But it doesn't have an AI button in the corner, so I guess that solves my problem!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fuck linux, the've had 30 years to make a consumer grade product but NoooOOooo all the devs spend their energy making 50 different weakly compatible distros that no one needs.

I'll say it again, fuck linux. Fuck linux and its shitty community of elitist basement trolls.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people spam "USE LINOOX INSTEAD!"

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol holy persecution complex, batman... This is a thread shitting on Windows.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It happens because Linux users are like vegans. They can't shut up about it. And they don't realize that using Linux doesn't make them special or a member of some cool club nor does it mean that they have any friends.

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