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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 years ago (5 children)

i still don't get why there aren't more firefox based browsers, i'm on librewolf, but there aren't as many firefox based alternatives, as there are for chromium. why ?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ironically, Brave tried to be Firefox based in their early days but they ultimately decided Chromium would meet their needs better so they switched over.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

is it their extensions ? why ? i just... i've been searching for hour now, i don't know why...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so, if i'm reading it right, they just kind of got into electron and sticked with it ? i get that mozilla is no saint with firefox, but... i don't know man, i'd've been more likely to try to brave if it was ff based...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hoping manifest v3 ends up being enough of a problem for adblockers that it pushes them to consider moving to firefox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Brave has already confirmed that their ad blocker isn’t implemented as an extension. It’s not affected by the changeover

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

its referring to their search engine's ai summarizer feature, i found an article when searching op's title, quite a low effort post really since only an image was shared and no link to any article.. or any description whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I actually use 5 different browsers:

  • Brave for work (need Chromium/Workspace integrations)
  • Mullvad for most things not work
  • LibreWolf simply because Mullvad can't be set as default
  • Ferdium for convenient containers for sites I am regularly logged into
  • Tor for "sensitive" browsing
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ferdium Are you saying Ferdium runs sites in isolated containers so it won't recognize when I'm logged into another app via cookies?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It just sandboxes your various logins to prevent leaking your browsing habits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Firefox can do this too so it should work with librewolf too, no?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It just doesn't work the same way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I use and heavily recommend Waterfox. Less bullshit, more privacy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Than librewolf? how exactly?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I heard chromium is easier to work with than gecko.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I heard the same - over a decade ago.

Not disagreeing with you, although that information might be outdated. But the fact that you don't see, e.g. , applications that use gecko to embed web content, speaks volumes. I get the feeling that their codebase is very monolithic.

I would really like to hear from a current or former contributor though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

As a previously paying, licensed Opera user I believe it was one of the reasons they went with chromium. Even Vivaldi (which is the true Opera) uses chromium. Giving up PWA support is another mistake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I believe libxul is their approach to having gecko as a separate library for others to use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

On the chromium side, there is the Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) which is used absolutely everywhere. Not sure about gecko situation though, but at least their JavaScript engine, SpiderMonkey, also has quite widespread use. I don't think I've seen projects not related with Mozilla/Firefox that use gecko though, but perhaps it's because I never look hard enough. It's usually either WebKit or CEF.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If someone can explain to me why librewolf refuses to display the specialized font characters that most websites use for necessary navigation symbols, I'll go back to using it. But all of my research suggests it was a problem only I was having, and it genuinely made some websites unusable.