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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's always the super slutty, naive woman or the super innocent, risk-free woman. Nothing in between.

Wut

And I personally think it's hypocritical to completely separate rape from any other crime. You can't argue, that in any other crime there's a certain responsibility put on the victim (your insurance won't pay, if you leave the car keys in), but rape, and only rape, dissolves the victim from any sort of responsibility for bringing themselves in a situation where this was very likely.

"well I know your husband was murdered but he's the one who decided to be a bank teller during an armed robbery"

You realize how much of an idiot you are, right? Don't rape people. It isn't hard and it isn't the victim's fault. At all. A woman should be able to walk down the street naked at 2 am and not have to worry about your disgusting ass touching her.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

well I know your husband was murdered but he’s the one who decided to be a bank teller during an armed robbery

The sad thing is I do hear people say that about convenience store workers that get shot on the job. Makes me so goddamned mad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Again, (seriously, why is that so hard?) you're taking an extreme example and act like that's the norm and act like I'm pro rape.

I described a problematic argumentation, and you used this exact structure to "refute" me.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I took an extreme example? Your example was fucking insurance claims. We're having a conversation about victim based crimes and you use an insurance claim as an evidence that victims get blamed for crimes all the time when that's simply not the case. Murder is a crime, leaving your car unlocked with the keys in the ignition isn't. Do better and people won't accuse you of defending rape.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where did I defend it? Where did I say that leaving the keys is a crime?

You're putting words in my mouth.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

There are definitely scenarios, where a reasonable person would have to say "this action is very risk prone". And I personally think it's hypocritical to completely separate rape from any other crime. You can't argue, that in any other crime there's a certain responsibility put on the victim (your insurance won't pay, if you leave the car keys in), but rape, and only rape, dissolves the victim from any sort of responsibility for bringing themselves in a situation where this was very likely.

Since your scroll wheel is broken. I'm not saying you said leaving your keys in the car is a crime. Use context clues when you read it'll help a lot. I'm saying leaving your keys in the car doesn't stop the police from treating the theft as a crime. They'll still nab the perp the same as if your keys were in your pocket and doors locked. Especially since car theft stings are literally leaving an unlocked car somewhere with the keys in it waiting for a thief.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and act like I’m pro rape.

repeatedly justifying it kinda makes me think you are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Where did I justify it even once? I explicitly stated the opposite. Multiple times.