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Edit: an upstream comment led me to be able to find this article which does a way better job of explaining the DOJ complaints:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/21/24107669/doj-v-apple-apple-watch-messaging-digital-wallets-lock-in
Honestly, I would be happy if Apple addressed all of these things as long as doing so has absolutely zero chance of degrading my experience as their customer.
My original comment:
Apple already announced that it'll be supporting RCS sometime this year. Cloud streaming games have been available on iOS for years now, but prior they had to be a Web App and as of earlier this year that is no longer the case. Now they can be a regular app in the app store.
Superapps are hot garbage and should be banned. But WeChat exists on iPhone so I am honestly confused about this one. What features is it not allowed to have?
The NFC and wallet issue is a thing still.
The watch thing is a head scratcher. What API does Apple Watch currently use which 3rd party watches don't have access to? Because it seems like Apple is being blamed for other companies not making better products.
I'm surprised they didn't mention that every browser is just re skinned safari
Right?
The complaints that they did list, many aren't valid anymore. But they didn't call out a lot of common complaints.
Defend and deflect
Yes yes. Apple Bad pls upvote me.
But in this case I pointed out some things that are wrong with the DOJ's complaints, one thing that is valid, and asked questions about two that nobody, and my searches, have answered. They seem to also be completely wrong on the DOJ side.
I doubt you use their products or will be affected by them being altered in any way, but I do and will, so this case interests me as do the details.
I use a MacBook pro daily but even if I didn't major lawsuits against monopolies affect me and everyone else
Fortunately for you, this lawsuit doesn't involve the Mac.
Fortunately for the rest of us, Apple doesn't have anywhere near a monopoly in any industry, which is honestly where this case should be dismissed.
If you have to take a specific month out of the year, limit the region, and define a category as "performance" to get your numbers fudged and you still only get to 70% you're not exactly making a strong case for a monopoly.
Noonono see apple not bad all times
That's fair. Corporations are people. And people are the worst.
What the hell. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it should be banned
Let me put it this way, superapps rely on harvesting and exploiting massive amounts of user data for profit, which is much worse than anything that Apple does. That aspect should be banned.
The quality of the service or content they provide is not my preference, but that's not what I was referring to as hot garbage in this case.
So ban harvesting and exploiting. Don’t ban superapps.
By your logic we should ban kitchen knives because they can be used to murder someone.
“What about!…” this adds nothing to discussions.
What are you talking about? They very clearly presented a concrete solution of banning problematic behaviour rather than arbitrary categories of applications.
That wasn't what-aboutism, I was just using an analogy to make a point.
Super apps aren’t designed for the people. They are for control. They could be beautiful for the people, but that’s an utopian dream.
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Room temperature IQ, got it.
Gotem
I don't think you can reply to a text message using a third party watch on iOS but you can with your Apple watch. I've seen that cited as an exclusive API.
Thank you!
Searching for what you said got me this recent article which does a better job of explaining all the issues and complaints:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/21/24107669/doj-v-apple-apple-watch-messaging-digital-wallets-lock-in
Tell me you're an apple fanboy without telling me you're an apple fanboy.
I tried to keep it super subtle but you got me!