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There is nothing saying a voter has to vote or that a candidate has to run. We both voluntarily take part in this transaction and it's up to the candidate to earn the votes of the voters.
No, there isn't.
But a voter not voting is still making a choice, and they are responsible for that choice.
The candidates aren't lords, and we aren't peasants. In a republic, CITIZENS are responsible for who they vote OR DON'T VOTE for.
There's no choice you can make where you lack responsibility. Whatever happens - it is our fault as citizens. If you can answer to your conscience in the case of a Trump presidency... well, gods help you, because I can't.
Yes, it was the voters choice to say that neither of the candidates appealed to them. It's not the voters fault if a candidate loses, it's the candidates fault for not appealing to the voters. It's really not a complicated concept, but you're still getting it backward.
If a company goes out of business is it the fault of the consumer, or of the company for not offering products the consumer wants?
Do the customers know that going out of business means it will be replaced with a new fascist business which will absolutely destroy the town?
If so, that is on the customers for letting perfection be the enemy of good.
In which case that voter is responsible for whichever one that won.
Refusing to act just means that you have endorsed the end result.
It's the voters fault that whoever wins, wins. You don't get to cross your arms and get all huffy and say "Well, I wasn't going to vote for GENOCIDE JOE, but I don't like that Trump won! This is unfair!"
Your. Vote. Matters.
Citizens. Have. Responsibility.
I can't believe I have to say this in the context of a left-leaning discussion, but companies are not democratic societies.
Hey, you got that part right. It is up the voters to pick the winner. Which is why it's up to the party to pick a candidate that can earn the votes to win.
Here I thought it was up to the voters to pick a candidate. Silly me.
It is up to the voters... Hence the choice of the word "party" there and not DNC. The party includes the DNC and their members (their primary voters). Silly you indeed.
Okay, so your argument, then, is that Democratic voters are wrong for picking Joe Biden, not the DNC. Right? It's their fault.
If a party chooses a candidate that loses, yes it is the parties fault. Its the DNC that put their thumb on the scale and not encouraging others to run against Biden and it's their voters fault for not picking someone else.
Ultimate if Biden loses you can blame the voters and keep putting up candidates the voters don't want, or the party can decide to adapt to what the majority of voters want. In a winner takes all, FPTP voting system it's really that simple.