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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Roe v. Wade fell during Biden's presidency and the most he did was an executive order for women's health research

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/03/18/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-executive-order-and-announces-new-actions-to-advance-womens-health-research-and-innovation/

how are you going to advance something that is now not here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

The Catholic Church condemned the ruling by the Supreme Court.[141] Blackmun wrote in his diary, "Abortion flak—3 Cardinals—Vatican—Rochester wires!"[141]

John Cardinal Krol, the archbishop of Philadelphia who was also the president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and Terence Cardinal Cooke, the archbishop of New York, both issued statements condemning the ruling.[175] Krol called the ruling "an unspeakable tragedy for this nation" that "sets in motion developments which are terrifying to contemplate."[175] Cooke called the decision a "horrifying action" and added:[175]

How many millions of children prior to their birth will never live to see the light of today because of the shocking action of the majority of the United States Supreme Court today?[175]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#

Biden is a moderate Democrat[549] who says his positions are deeply influenced by Catholic social teaching.

how do the Republicans differ on abortion again?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Roe V Wade was overturned by Supreme Court packed by GOP and Donald Trump. Fuck off with your bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Don't apologize for Biden. He could have tried to pack the court, he could be given weekly speeches denouncing their decision, he has the IRS and FBI could have made Thomas' and Alito's life a living hell with daily announcements of fresh bribery charges, he could pick a fight with the Catholic Church pointing out that it is a foreign power influencing the US government. Instead he went gently into that good night.

Now will I vote for him? Yes because the alternative is worse. Can I support him? Not for a second.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wikipedia is now bullshit?

Trumpism was bad but so is Bidenism

Biden is clearly on record saying he agrees with the abortion ban

Biden is a moderate Democrat[549] who says his positions are deeply influenced by Catholic social teaching.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_abortion

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which is... Where exactly?

Your shitty edit does not say that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#

Biden is a moderate Democrat[549] who says his positions are deeply influenced by Catholic social teaching.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_abortion

right there him agreeing with the abortion ban plain as day

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

During Thursday’s speech, Biden deviated from his prepared remarks, skipping over the word “abortion” and instead using the phrases “reproductive freedom” or “freedom to choose.”

Yes, he is catholic. Yes, most Catholics disagree with abortion. No, Biden doesn’t think his religious beliefs should dictate how women live their lives. He literally says it plain as day for even the very stupid among us to understand. Good luck!

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-biden-2024-reproductive-rights-harris-494af752992ba88fa6e3d53fbd54f716

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This seems extremely deceptive, possibly deliberately so. Being influenced by catholic teachings does not mean you agree with everything they believe. Even someone who rejects every single moral teaching of the church could still be influenced by them in some ways.

In this case, we don’t need to speculate from some vague statement about the church because Biden has explicitly stated he supported roe v wade, has appointed judges that have pursued this pro-choice ideology, and has even stated that he would sign a bill to reinstate the previous protections for women. Such a bill was put forth in congress but was blocked in the senate. He does not have any direct control over this issue, so it’s hard for me to see what else he even could have done.

It comes off as very intellectually dishonest to ignore all that and claim he’s “clearly on the record saying he supports the abortion ban” then point to something he didn’t even say and is only tangentially related.

PS: There are tons of legitimate criticisms of Biden so it’s especially strange to invent ones that are so far from the truth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden being for women's rights would have been a drastic out of common place executive order restoring women's rights instead of one advancing research into a field that requires Roe versus Wade

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Executive orders can only interpret and change the execution of federal law. They can’t invent new ones. If there were a federal abortion ban in place, Biden could decline to enforce it, though this would not change the actual law and would likely be challenged in court.

The abortion bans are all by state governments which Biden has no authority over. Read up on federalism and the way the US government works. It sounds like some of your frustration stems from a lack of political knowledge. The presidency is not a dictatorship and we do not want it to be. If Biden could restore reproductive rights unilaterally then a republican could also remove them unilaterally, which would be even worse than the current situation.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please tell me precisely how many justices Biden has appointed vs. the number of justices on the court.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he could have started nominating to expand the court

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The president is not a dictator. It doesn't work like that.

Also, do you really think presidents should just be able to change the size of SCOTUS whenever they want to? What if Trump gets in and decides to shrink it to only the conservatives?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he can nominate 100 people today and make the Senate turn down every one

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which they would. So what would that accomplish?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know enough about our legislature to know that they would not approve 100 SCOTUS justices. I'm not sure why you think they would allow any president to do that unless they were a rubber stamp legislature, which they are not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they don't need to approve 100 but letting 6 or 7 through is possible

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would the Senate even let one extra justice through?

You would need 51% of them to do that. Which would necessarily either include Manchin and Sinema or two Republicans. If you honestly believe either of those scenarios would result in even increasing the size of SCOTUS to 10 justices, you really don't understand the U.S. government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

of 100 candidates having to go through all the consent hearings, I think they would come to an agreement about a few

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why would they come to an agreement on any of them? What would compel Sinema and Manchin to agree to expand the court by a single justice? And if not them, name the two Republicans who would please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

imagine the immense opportunity. I don't know how they wouldn't all think about the power being given to them. the pool of candidates. the legacy. but Biden won't even nominate 2 more because he doesn't actually care.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In other words, you can't give a reason for Sinema and Manchin to support Biden if he did this or name two Republicans.

Because as far as I can tell, the 'immense opportunity' would also be there to say no to every single judge and not allow Biden to increase the size of the Supreme Court. Which they would totally do since even plenty of Democrats would be against it.

Why you think this is a politically winning issue I don't know. If it were, it would have been done already by other presidents. Do you think Clinton would have had a court with Thomas, Scalia and all the other Republican appointees? Do you think Clinton would have dealt with Rehnquist as chief justice if he didn't have to?

Even FDR had the Supreme Court working against him. Why didn't he expand the court so all of his New Deal programs would pass? Do you think maybe it's because it is not something the Senate would ever agree to or do you think FDR was just less popular than Biden?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When did he try to expand the court? Details please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay. Fair enough. He tried.

And he failed.

So what would the point of Biden trying be exactly? Because it sounds purely performative and the Senate already wastes way too much time on performative bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he could introduce a constitutional amendment. he could pack the court. he could do something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A constitutional amendment takes a supermajority of congress and 2/3rds of the states to ratify it. That is literally impossible for Biden to achieve.

We already talked about how he would fail at packing the courts.

I think you don't really have a good understanding of how the U.S. government works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he didn't even fail at it. he didn't fucking try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You're right. He didn't try to do something purely performative that was almost certain to fail in a big waste of time and taxpayer money.

Because that would have been pretty fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was just spit balling. he could literally do anything to fix the situations we are facing instead of not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He could literally do nothing about the Dobbs decision. It was entirely out of his hands. The executive branch does not control the judicial branch. That's the whole point of the separation of powers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

he could have introduced a constitutional amendment. he could have packed the court. he did nothing.