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esp if you're one of the devout ones who think they've been really good

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is like saying that Atheists shouldn't fear death because they know it will just be blank nothingness that they won't perceive.

Fear of death doesn't come from the logical part of our brains.

[–] TheKMAP 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

?????

Totally not the same. Religious people believe the afterlife is better than real life and the OP was curious why they aren't speed running to get to it.

A blank nothingness is not an upgrade for most people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It is the same because a blank nothingness isn't bad so atheists have no reason to fear death.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a blank nothingness isn't bad

That's a matter of opinion. The fact you cease to exist may very well be considered scary, even by atheists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's a matter of opinion.

No, it's a pretty objective description of the absence of being.

The fact you cease to exist may very well be considered scary, even by atheists.

Yes, because fear of death does not come from the logical part of your brain, not because they have anything logical to fear.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Death is still a process. You may not be scared of what comes after death, but can still be scared of dying itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I don't follow your question. Why can't theists what exactly?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Be scared of dying. The whole context of this thread is someone asking why theists are scared of dying, when the answer is the same reason that atheists are, dying can suck, no one is 100% certain about anything except for zealots, and fear of death fundamentally does not come from the logical part of our brain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A blank nothingness might not technically be bad but there are plenty of ways that transitioning to that nothingness could be absolutely terrible. There are also many people living very enjoyable lives that want to keep the party going so to speak.

I for one am an atheist and madly in love with my wife. You bet your ass I'm gonna try and squeeze every last drop of goodness out of my life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congratulations, now apply the same logic to theists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never insinuated that it couldn't be applied to theists. Not sure why you're seemingly hostile about this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Given that the whole context of this thread is why theists are scared of dying, you kind of did insinuate that with your story.

[–] TheKMAP 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's relatively worse. If you have nothing you won't be around to complain about it. But having a good life is totally better than simply not existing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not relatively worse, it's just objectively neutral. It cannot be relatively worse because it is not perceived or felt to be compared. It is just objectively neutral.

[–] TheKMAP 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Any positive number is objectively higher than zero or null

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not zero or null, those are both conditions you perceive, it is the complete lack of perception and being. You cannot have lost anything if you no longer exist to perceive any loss.

[–] TheKMAP 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's what null means dawg

Look up that photo of zero vs null in the context of toilet paper

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a stupid take. Of course they should fear death. It means the loss of everything they loved, even though they won't experience said loss.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no loss to you if you don't experience it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There is. Also, if you want to mourn or fear that loss, you have to do it beforehand. Thus making the reaction to fear death completely rational for atheists.