Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.
this post was submitted on 02 May 2024
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Just a reminder...
Liberals terrified that they'll be treated the same way they treat Palestinians.
Tell me you live under a rock without telling me you live under a rock.
We've been telling you libs that you were enabling fascism for decades, but you just kept on simping for fascism anyway. Yet suddenly when you realize that you might be on the receiving end of it, suddenly you start to whine.
Yes, you're right. When given a binary choice it's always worse to choose the side that will bring more fascism. I'm glad you recognized that at one point. Hopefully you can come back around to it.
You've picked that same choice every four years for decades, and all it's done is bring more fascism.
Don't complain now that that fascism might effect you
Out of the three choices available to me it's brought the least fascism one can muster through the voting process. Not voting is a way to bring about marginally more fascism (I especially hope you are voting locally right?) There are 3 years and 364 other days to do political action. Please use those. I don't see voting as anything but an awful way to choose the lesser of two evils and as a miniscule but necessary part of mine and your capacity for political action.
There is no genuine socialist political movement left in the US; it's been systematically destroyed - with enthusiastic support by liberals.
I wholeheartedly encourage you to spend your time advocating for socialism and trying to revive the movement, hell, I've spent time canvasing for local socialist candidates. You know what that didn't stop me from doing? Spending 20 minutes walking to my polling place once every 4 years to vote for the least fascist out of 2 shitty candidates.
So you agree, you're voting for a fascist?
Of course. I hate the system I exist in. Not voting for either fascist is saying you're ok with either one winning, and you're fine with the more fascist one winning, not somehow ascending yourself out of the system.
At the end of the day one of only two candidates will win and enact their favored policies. As I said, please for the love of God be politically active in favor of socialism the other 3 years and 364 days that exist, we need to change the system.
unsurprisingly, "yeah he's a fascist, but" is not a convincing answer. I'm voting for the PSL. I won't be holding my nose to vote for this octogenarian zionist again , fuck that lmao
I mean, that's fine. You've convinced yourself that both candidates are equally bad to placate yourself. That is so clearly not true but if you're holding on to that totem there's not a lot I can do about that.
You have rationalized yourself into voting for fascism, as if it's the only moral option. Nothing you could say would ever make me take you or your opinions seriously. You are not someone I would take advice from, nor someone whose thoughts would ever affect my own, in any form.
Good luck in November!
I figured, I hope you think on it though.
Inaction is still a vote.
Liberals have systematically destroyed all serious attempts at left wing organization, and put structures in place to make it impossible for them to reemerge. And they did this with a hundred times more gusto then they ever put towards stopping the rise of fascism.
You're right. We need a revolution 50 years ago.
If there was a serious revolutionary effort here, you would call them Russian/Chinese backed authoritarian terrorists and beg the government to drown them in white phosphorus
If there was a serious revolution here you would still stay home coming up with three new excuses an hour for why it isn't your exact vintage of preferred revolution and why nothing will really change because of it.
I love when PEOPLE on lemmy act like THEY tried to warn everyone so THEY'RE not responsible. How many election cycles have you participated in? You haven't done shit and will continue not doing shit, congratulations.
We know this isn’t an age-restricted reaction, so cool it with the “shaming young people” rhetoric.
What a bizarre comment.
And they have just as hypocritically told you similar things. And neither of you have learned you're both horrible.
Just a reminder: voting for Biden does not mean you support him.
Who told you that? I’m sure you didn’t read that anywhere.
Well, I don’t support either one of them but it’s very clear that Trump is the worse of the two options in the two party system. I did not choose him. I really think it’s moronic for randos on the internet to try to tell me what I support. It’s not a moral issue for me, it’s a logical one.
Again, voting for Biden is not supporting him. I’ll acknowledge that he is one of two shitty options, but my brain works well enough to recognize that in a two party system, we’re not going to have more than two options. That’s just math.
My memory works well enough to remember the Trump regime and its lasting impacts on our country. Not voting for Biden is an endorsement for further rollbacks to bodily autonomy, a greater division in wealth, the privatization of public services, religious indoctrination in schools, AND the continued genocide of Palestinians.
The third option being doing nothing at all? Is that the third option or are you going to inform me of a new way to do electoral math?
I am voting for Biden as a vote against Trump. I do not support Biden; I abhor Trump. I am not really sure why this is difficult to process for you.
You keep mentioning morals after I already told you that my decision is not one based in morals; it's based in logic. Keep schilling for the right and you too will no longer need to worry about voting at all.
A person who doesn't vote is more to blame than a person who votes for the less insane candidate. That's logic 101.