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RFK is a skid mark on the Kennedy name. He knowingly snake-oiled ivermectin, counter to the data and extreme majority of medical professsionals. Don’t pretend it was an “oopsie- he was told the wrong thing!” That’s super disingenuous.
He’s not even a good snake oil salesman. If you honestly believe the shit you used to defend him, I have some tickets to heaven I can get you for a killer discount lmao
It was not. It was a flight of utter fancy. It was a fiction.
He does not. No one got rich off of the COVID-19 vaccines. In fact, vaccines in general are not a cash cow for the pharmaceutical industry. I'm not saying the industry is populated by good people—lol nope—but if you follow the money it doesn't go far because there isn't much of it. They get the good PR from selling vaccines, and then they make money from ED pills and such.
No they haven't. And don't try to toss VAERS data at me; it'll just prove that you don't know what that database is. In reality the side effects from the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are almost miraculously low—somewhat lower than the industry standard in terms of occurrences, and much lower than the industry standard in terms of severity. Most importantly, though, they were dramatically lower than just catching the disease.
mRNA vaccines have been in development since 1993. The pharmaceutical industry wasn't pushing it because traditional vaccines were good enough (read: cheaper) between 1993-2020, but the R&D was consistent for that time.
We definitely did need the speed of mRNA in vitro transcription vaccines at the height of the pandemic. But it's not like this was a "second-best" option, or a case where we were settling for something.
I implore you, get your medical information from reliable sources.
You are perpetuating dangerous lies in an attempt to defend a horrible liar. You need to REALLY consider why the fuck you do that. Educate yourself before spewing that nonsense.
Honestly don't even need to point out the liar part
Just point out that he has brain damage from a worm literally eating his brain. He could have made all the right choices and that still makes him a horrible person to put in charge just from a mental acuity angle
He was a hack long before the brain worm. The worm thing is absolutely pertinent and you are correct that should preclude him from any serious run, but he’s been selling snake oil for a looooong time and has many reasons beyond mere medical stuff that should top the list of why he’s a piece of shit leader.
I don’t know what to tell you if you need to have a discussion about a grifter. To take him seriously, you have to pretty seriously have zero knowledge about what he lies about. If that’s the case, perhaps you should be researching the topic with a reputable source instead of playing devils advocate for a lying POS.
You have to be utterly stupid or willfully ignorant to A) take him seriously B) ignore the fact that his claims were, to an extreme degree, publicly refuted.
But sure, tell me more how you expect us to seriously discuss the merits of Mr. Brain Worm.
If you’re ignorant about the guy, maybe try not playing devils advocate and spreading his lies. Do some basic research before muddying discourse and looking like a knob.
If you think it’s reasonable to play devil’s advocate for someone you don’t know (with a proven shitty track record) based on some fluff propaganda, then you are a great example of how disinformation campaigns work.
You are the prime kind of mark they make misinformation for, because you’ll do zero to educate yourself beyond watching some YouTube video before you start doing exactly what you’ve done here.
Step 1: Intake propaganda Step 2: Take propaganda at face value Step 3: repeat propaganda ad nauseam Step 4: claim ignorance when called out Repeat
I don’t hate him. I just have the common sense to not buy his snake oil. And yes, I’ll judge anyone who defends his obvious snake oil.
I don’t think you’re a victim. I think you’re absolutely complicit in perpetuating his lies at this point. You had every opportunity to educate yourself, yet you opted not to and instead argued for him and his lies in the public forum. There will always be assholes, and those that spread the asshole’s shit around.
You have choices. You made a poor one going to bat for him. And yeah, I’m not going to sugarcoat anything when it comes to fascism. Sorry if that hurts your feelings 🤷♂️
The two methods that could have saved you from mistakenly conflating me calling out misinformation for harassment (seems pretty par-for-the course for an RFK defender) is by not replying or just blocking me.
And all this could have been avoided if you looked him up for a moment before coming to the defense of his lies.
You said "many." That is definitively false.
One of the main jobs of the president is assigning work to other people. The president isn’t supposed to be the best economist, the best strategist, the top scientist, or the best trade planner. They’re supposed to make decisions based on the input of the people they selected for the position.
My biggest concern with Bernie (who is someone I absolutely admire and who I’ve supported for decades) is that he is total crap at picking staff and then he stays loyal to them.
There’s a tendency in western political philosophy that basically says that the king himself is a good person, but he has bad advisors. This is done for ego-saving, as people would rather criticize advisors than the king.
RFK is truly unhinged. He’s a conspiracy theorist. He’s the weird uncle you don’t invite to Thanksgiving. I wouldn’t let him house sit for me. If the guy can’t even win over his family members, I don’t think he’s promising. He’s being funded to run as a spoiler by the opposition, and I expect his support to plummet as soon as he’s actually put in front of a mic and gets national attention. Remember when Herman Cain was the Republican front runner until people figured out more about him? I think this is basically that.
Makes sense, because you definitely sound like someone trying to undermine US interests by stumping for this guy
I don’t really think you are a Russian disinformation agent; my statement was an attempt to point out that you were at the very least playing the part of a useful pawn for people who want to undermine our election.
However, if you genuinely think that RFK jr is worthy of consideration in this election, I genuinely think you’re an idiot.
The reason it’s always D vs R is systemic. Our election system punishes similar candidates that run against each other. Because of this, our political parties are more like coalitions, made up of a number of different groups who strategically send out only one candidate, which is decided in primary elections.
As a result, the people who end up running third party for president are usually delusional, looking for attention, or intentional spoilers. So the fact that RFK jr has a screw loose is not surprising, and I would be more concerned about a conspiracy if our media elevated him to the level of the other candidates when it is undeserved and detrimental.
To your last point, we always said that at least GWB had “good advisors” but that just made him easier to manipulate. I don’t think it’s bad that we expect the president of the whole country to be smart. I want them to be smarter than me!