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You keep arguing the wrong point.
No one is saying you can't on your server create a TOS that says that anyone who puts content on your server that you then own that content, you become the owner. That's not what's being discussed.
The point is because of various reasons like safe harbor and PR, Lemmy World and other servers in the Federation are not claiming ownership.
When you post your comment on the Lemmy World server, you still own it, and you can license that content that you own in any way that you like, and that license is on the content, not on the server, so as that content is federated, that license travels with it and is still in action, and must be abided by.
I feel confident in my position, because if we went with your position then it would be very easy to "money launder" anyone's content by just passing it through a third party Federated server with a TOS that says they own any content on their server. I'm pretty sure the big boys who own content aren't going to allow that to happen, and would talk to their friends in Congress about it.
It's really mostly existing basic content law. It's not as cloudy and up in the air as everyone wants to say it is, there's just a new wrinkle to it, and I'm pretty sure those in power will make sure everything stays status quo.
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It's where the content was initially posted, so any terms of service would be applicable to the content at the time of posting. That's why.
The onus is on the Federated server receiving the content that's already licensed to reject the content if they do not want to abide by the license. If they accept the content, they have to abide by the license.
And as far as the rest of you diatribe, I'll just remind you that licenses can't just be stripped from content because some third-party TOS says it can.
We would have seen much 'money laundering' style mayhem on the Internet with other people's content before today, if that was possible.
I think we've discussed this enough, so I'm just going to leave it with an 'agree to disagree', and move on.
Have a nice day.
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I'm don't believe an "outside opinion" from an AI company's product, about if an AI company has the legal right to ignore a content's license and scrape the content to program their models, would be unbiased, and should not be trusted, as you've stated.
Attempting to agree to disagree, and move on.
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