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Trump has waffled on whether the Israel-Gaza war should end. But speaking to wealthy donors behind closed doors, he said that he supports Israel’s right to continue “its war on terror.”

Former president Donald Trump promised to crush pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, telling a roomful of donors — a group that he joked included “98 percent of my Jewish friends” — that he would expel student demonstrators from the United States, according to participants in the roundtable event with him in New York.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

One: you can be sued for anything regardless of if it's true or not. Someone could find some sleazebag lawyer and sue you for drowning hundreds of puppies while laughing about it -- does that make you a puppy killer?

Two: We have presidents that we know directly ordered genocides of native people ... yet weren't sued for it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But while many media outlets were quick to report on the case not moving forward, they largely missed a key aspect of the ruling: the judge did not dismiss the case on its merits but rather because it fell ​“outside the court’s limited jurisdiction,” source

In fact, U.S. District Court Judge Jeffrey White’s statement appeared to uphold some of plaintiff’s key charges in the case:

The judge went further, urging Biden and his administration officials to scrutinize ​“the results of their unflagging support” for the Israeli government’s assault on Gaza.

Until he changes his stance, he’s “genocide Joe.”

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So by that definition there's also genocide Trump, and genocide US government, and genocide US soldiers, and genocide US citizens, and genocide judges, and... It becomes irrelevant to call him "genocide joe", it has little to do with him. See we call Dwayne "the rock" Johnson because he's the only wrestler known by that name, it's unique to him. I think you need to lookup what Nicknames are for, aside from GOP propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree. All individuals and institutions you listed could be culpable, but no suits, internationally, nor domestically have been filed. Except for the CCR case against Biden, Blinken, and Austin.

I looked into the origin of the “genocide Joe” meme. The earliest entry is from October 18, 2023. As far as I can tell it was started by pro-Palestine leftists like Aaron Mate, Hasan, and Alan Macleod. It did not originate from conservative media.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Youre a trumper. Let's not pretend lawsuits mean anything at all to you. Nevermind lawsuits that haven't started.

The origin is irrelevant to who is perpetuating it, or why. "Sleepy Joe", "Genocide Joe", "Orange man bad" are all designed to remove any critical thinking or nuance. It was the same for "Crooked Hillary".

Now if you're so good at fetching historical data, let's find which political party has it as a primary strategy to make up silly names and gaslight their opponent with them.. i'll wait.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This prolix exposition does nothing to keep Trump from being reelected. More likely, it serves to depress voter motivation. You need to give people a reason to vote for Biden, not against Trump. Best of luck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Because that's what youre doing right, getting people to vote for Biden. I see lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unironically, yes. Insulting voters and defending a genocide does not win people to your side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, pressure on Biden will force him to stop supporting a genocide, which will hopefully help more people support him. He's already taken baby steps. Thanks to this pressure. I was told to vote for him in 2020 because he can be pushed left and I did. Yet, if he can't be pushed to not support a genocide, the biggest crime of all humanity, then it's not really true.