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Trump has waffled on whether the Israel-Gaza war should end. But speaking to wealthy donors behind closed doors, he said that he supports Israel’s right to continue “its war on terror.”

Former president Donald Trump promised to crush pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, telling a roomful of donors — a group that he joked included “98 percent of my Jewish friends” — that he would expel student demonstrators from the United States, according to participants in the roundtable event with him in New York.

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 163 points 10 months ago (5 children)

But let’s protest Biden by abstaining in the general! That’ll teach the Dems a lesson! And get a shit ton more Palestinians murdered but I’ll teach the Dems a lesson that they will definitely forget by 2028!

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the democrat party will lose if a segment of their voter base abstains from voting

and

the democrat platform can afford to completely ignore a segment of their voter base so doesn't need to adjust their platform

are two mutually exclusive positions

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (34 children)

Wrong. What the democratic party does is nearly irrelevant.

"We will not vote for Biden because of Gaza" and "We will do what's best for the Palestinians who live in Gaza" are, unfortunately, truly mutually exclusive positions.

It's extremely sad, but that's the position your Republican neighbors have put you in.

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[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Only if you ignore that there’s also a segment of Democratic voters who would reconsider support for Biden if he took a stance that they perceived as anti-Israel. Democrats are a coalition party of compromises between factions who have to work together to find as much common ground as possible in order to have any political relevance in a first-past-the-post system. Biden has to walk whatever tightrope loses the fewest votes, and he seems to think that not doing a 180 on decades of US foreign policy is the best way to do that.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 96 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Where are my “genocide Joe” boys? You, the ones that have nothing to say but Biden/democrats bad?

You always leave this part out. Troll farm tankies.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm right here, this article does nothing to change my mind about how Joe Biden is aiding and abetting an ongoing genocide.

Yes, Trump will almost certainly be worse. That doesn't change the fact that our current president's support for genocide is deplorable, it hurts his electoral chances, and it damages the US standing in the world.

Burying Palestinian families alive under the rubble of their former homes is not a good use of my tax dollars. Joe Biden needs to stop.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Genocide is a US problem not specific to any president.

You can say "Joe Biden is helping/supporting Israel in its genocide on Palestinians". Calling him "genocide joe" is repeating GOP bs. They say it like that to keep the critical thinking to a minimum.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Nice little performance! But your act isn't all that convincing really.

Joe Biden cares more about Palestinians than you do. He's doing things to help while you're projecting faux outrage.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 14 points 10 months ago

this article does nothing to change my mind

Nobody claimed you could read...

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

BOtHsiDeSsAmE1

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[–] suction@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (8 children)

If Trump wins and has his SS start shooting Pro-Palestinian protestors, it’ll be really hard to hold back from saying “told you so”

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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's getting ready to speed up the genocide

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (9 children)

We better elect Biden so we can have incremental death? Both are Zionist pieces of shit not worthy of holding office.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There are not 2 sides, there are 2 right wing factions each skinning a cat and telling everyone their method is best

[–] suction@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Don’t cut yourself on that edge

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah! Why go for incremental death when we can just kill every other person as fast as possible! Thanos 2024!

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[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Nope. Just bitch and complain and spread voter apathy while not using any energy to push for actual change. Dude most likely isn't even from the states and can't vote.

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[–] suction@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Bbbbbut Biden more bad!! Because Jeenoside

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[–] suction@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

FYI: Most of those braindead "am I not allowed to criticize Biden????" comments and posts on social media are a concerted effort by right-wingers from /pol and other such sewers, trying to get people to not vote against Trump. Don't fall for it. These aren't "lefties" or "tankies". Just downvote, report, and ignore.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They’re insane if the think I wouldn’t crawl over 5 miles of glass covered in diarrhea to vote against christofascism, and the only way to vote against christofascism is by voting for the side with the best chance to claim its victory, and much to my chagrin that’s Biden, it’s a really simple calculus

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (16 children)

So where are all the "concerned Democrats" that always show up en masse to talk about how horrible Biden's Gaza policy is?
Aren't you guy's concerned about this policy too? Or is it fine because it's not Biden's policy?

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[–] Dreizehn@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

I always said President Biden is the lesser of the two evils. Mango Mussolini should shove off to fucking Moscow.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

thanks again republicans for reminding us that expression of grievances is basically communism

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He's trying to appeal to Democrats now?

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

No, he's just a grifting pos who will say anything to anyone willing to give him a dollar.

Btw I'm still waiting on that answer, champ.

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When you are more anti Biden than anti Trump, you are effectively pro Trump.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you would like to go there, let's. When you're more anti-criticism than you are anti-genocide, you are pro-genocide.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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