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A peaceful takeover would in my mind involve a democratic decision to do the takeover - I don't see how the police would stand in the way of that. The bigger issue would seem to me to be convincing people to vote for such a democratic decision. But at least that is a peaceful path.
That's why you are not allowed anything that remotely resembles democracy - instead, you get an interactive horse and pony show every few years where you are allowed to choose which gang of racketeers gets to represent the rich's interests.
They are standing in the way of that right now. It's their only function - it's the only function they have ever had and ever will have.
There is no peaceful way to dismantle capitalism. The capitalists and their cronies has seen to that.
I don't agree with that. I think the Danish democratic political system is functioning quite well, all things considered.
Don't you guys still have a King who was born into wealth because his great great great great grandfather killed the most people and took their land?
The monarchy is slightly controversial but the majority of danes like it. There are certain benefits - if we didn't have a king, we'd need a president instead who would be a much more politically divisive figure than the king is. As it is, the king is a much more uniting figure. We also don't need to have elections for the president or any of that stuff.
And no, of course he has no real power. Which is honestly good, cause a president would have more power than that. I personally prefer the situation as it is right now. The king stays because the people say so - that is also democracy.
That you accept the child of the wolf as your king doesn't change that your King was born into wealth because of the violence of his ancestors.
That's fair, but his ancestors crimes are not his to bear or be blamed for.
And again, it doesn't change that the people still want to keep the monarchy. So democracy has spoken.
So it's fine if I murder your family and take everything your children have so that my children can live in luxury?
In the US, mobsters kill with impunity while their family gets reality TV (Mob wives) showing off their life of luxury. The "children are innocent of their parents crimes" is unjust because the victims' children suffer.
The King is the child of a mobster. His luxury life came from violence. Your children will have to work their entire lives in part because of what the King's ancestors stole from them.
Obviously that is not fine but you're making a strawman of what I said before. The situation you present is not comparable.
The King lives in luxury because his ancestors killed your ancestors and left their children in poverty to work for him.
That's not a strawman.
I provided the background that your claim "children are innocent of their parents' crimes" isn't just.
The danish monarchy is so old that this is so far in the past that it literally does not matter any more. A couple of generations, sure. 1000 years of generations? Nobody cares and I don't think it's reasonable to blame anyone for crimes made by ancestors that far in the past. It's not like we blame me for my ancestors (vikings) pillaging of Englang and other horrible things they did.
The King was still profiting from African slave trade in the early 1800's.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_overseas_colonies
Lots of people where profiting from slave trade 200 years ago and we don't prosecute any ancestors of those people today. I really don't know what your point is.
You said his parents crimes aren't his to bear and I argue that children shouldn't benefit from the crimes of their parents.
You don't have to agree with it... reality is not on your side.
You can't even tell what qualifies as democratic or not - how can you tell if there is anything democratic about Denmark?
Have you even bothered to check how many factories and workplaces in Denmark are democratically run?
Yes? No?
Damn that wasn't hard to find
It's 35 employees in Denmark, btw.
But yeah... "industrial democracy" does exist in some places in Europe.
Oh look... a liberal arguing with itself!
How are those millions coming along, temporarily embarrassed billionaire?
I'm not the one arguing with myself on a public forum, genius - you are.
Again, liberal... I’m not the one arguing with myself on a public forum, genius - you are.
Again, liberal… I’m not the one arguing with myself on a public forum, genius - you are.