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[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 106 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Yeah, down with the violence of the state! Although, to prevent bad actors and armed gangs we do need to have some sort of militia to protect the vulnerable from the greedy and cruel, human nature being what it is. And to prevent said militia from turning into the very thing it was supposed to protect us from, we need some sort of oversight, preferably from a democratically elected body, that tells the militia how to act and prevent them from violating the rights of the people. Oh wait I just reinvented violence of the state hehe.

People in Somalia hearing that America has a 1.8% homelessness rate: "wow. Things are really just as bad over there."

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 39 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That's not what anarchists refer to as a state.

A common anarchist definition of the state is: The institutionized power structure which alienates people from the businesses of their daily lives.

If the whole constituency of the community that the militia protects is involved in controlling that militia, that's not state violence anymore.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (10 children)

If the whole constituency of the community that the militia protects is involved in controlling that militia,

Like having the militia answer to a democratically-elected government?

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (30 children)

A common anarchist definition of the state is: The institutionized power structure which alienates people from the businesses of their daily lives.

So not the government at all, right? Because they aren't responsible for hardly any alienating in my experience. I would attribute any alienating I feel to corporations.

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[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, this is a point espoused by people who see themselves as wolves, but end up finding out they are actually pigs.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I was about to say. Everyone here who is looking at this through a laptop or phone are guilty of violence according to this comic.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By killing all people who own land?

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 47 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I mean, this is literally an advocacy for racist authoritarianism, tho.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's advocacy for "might makes right".

If the little piggies had grown up in the wild, they would be Razorbacks and would rip the wolf to shreds and then eat him. Or perhaps the little piggies could have spent some of their wealth contracting wolfhounds to keep their houses safe. Instead, they trusted to their ivory-tower theories and got eaten.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wolfs do not normally loose to individual wild pigs

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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

"Violence [is] The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived." - Robert A Heinlein

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] essell@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago (5 children)

So what you're saying is that it's okay for me to just walk into someone's home, murder the entire family and just live there now because I'm the most violent of all?

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's literally American history.

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The fourth little pig build it's house out of the skulls of wolves. Which wasn't very stable, but it sure got the message across.

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 26 points 10 months ago (5 children)

While I find anarchist ideas intriguing, I don't like how the comic seems to encourage a violent takeover of property like this.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yep. classic "the bad guy is actually good bc i drew him as a cool furry"

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (34 children)

I don’t like how the comic seems to encourage a violent takeover of property like this.

May have something to do with the fact that the capitalists have armies of state-funded paramilitaries called "police" that makes any kind of peaceful takeover utterly impossible.

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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The only proper response when a liberal tries to hide behind the NAP no one can freely or willingly enter into a contract under duress of starvation and homelessness.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No liberal has ever mentioned the NAP.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I didn't even know what NAP was until a few weeks ago. Marx and Smith never used the initialism.

You have to be into Libertarianism or have debated Libertarians to know what NAP stands for.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (7 children)

You mean libertarian. LIberals aren't stupid enough to believe in a silly non aggression pact.

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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

That anarchist wolf would make for a sick tattoo

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 21 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Yup, theres the edgy communist propaganda Ive come to expect

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 50 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is really more like anarchist propaganda than communist.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

People not versed in political theory won't see a difference.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Authoritarians shouldn't hold a monopoly on the communist label. Anarchism is much more in line with communism imo. Seeing as both anarchic and communist societies would both be stateless, moneyless, and classles

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[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 19 points 10 months ago

Wait, only communists get to dunk on Libertarian NAP nonsense? Those commies really do get to have all the fun.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The cartoon would work just as well if the Wolf had an American flag pin on his jacket and the pigs wore Native American headdresses.

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[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We were robbed of a truly incredibly human being when Graeber passed away. I'm a huge fan of "Debt: The First 5000 Years". And I'm heartbroken that "Bullshit Jobs" was the last publication he produced.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You may be happy to know he and David Wengrow wrote The Dawn of Everything. It was published posthumously but his fingerprints are all over it. Great book to boot! Pirate Enlightenment was also published posthumously. Haven't had a chance to read it but I think it's safe to assume it's great too.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Werewolf: The Apocalypse intensifies!

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