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[–] [email protected] 134 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My bet is on beeswax for the non-vegan ingredient.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago

You would be right. I have the same packs. I don't know if I bought old stock, but I bought the pack with the blue lid recently, the black lid pack is older.

The black lid pack contains bee wax and more water than the blue lid pack (64% vs 57% of the natural ingredients).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably this and a synthetic emulsifier/surfactant or the like.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It depends. Many vegans see any product that "exploits" animals as nonvegan. That includes things like down feathers, wool and honey.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not sure how Wool exploits animals, shearing sheep is good for their health as I understand it (keeping them from growing things, or getting too heavy/waterlogged to move and just... laying there and dying, amomgst other things.)

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

Sheep are selectively bred for their wool. Before humans started doing so, wild sheep did just fine without the need for shearing. So it's pretty similar to milk in that if you don't milk a modern dairy cow it will suffer, that doesn't make milk an ethical product.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

After a few sheers they're off to the slaughterhouse once the wool quality degrades. The sheering is not for their benefit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not a natural ingredient though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

And beeswax is an animal product.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Okay, but Ephera's comment was about the (non-)vegan ingredients.