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[–] [email protected] 76 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Most meat alternatives like impossible burgers are bullshit.

Ultra processed shit food.

There's a lot of good vegan food that doesn't pretend to be burgers, ribs or anything else besides what is it.

Plus who fucks an animal before you eat it?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (5 children)

If you're looking for context, this is a shit post about my recent interactions with a certain community of vegans

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense, I saw your instance and I had questions that I did not want to ask.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, we don't associate with those sick fucks either. We just like imaginary porn.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is this a reverse rim job Steve moment?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Someone with a wholesome username saying something utterly depraved?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Plus who fucks an animal before you eat it?

Everyone eating dairy.

Cows are mammals. They produce milk for their calves, its not something that cows just naturally produce. So the dairy industry only exists from repeated forcible impregnation.

Edit:

Y'all mad but this is simply biology.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Everyone who drinks milk fucks cows?

Am I supposed to take you seriously right now?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Now you see what I've been dealing with

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'll just throw a piece of bacon on my cheeseburger tonight in honour of that commenter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess I’ll wash down the meal with some ice cream now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Healthy choices

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)

Why go for a cheeseburger when you could do a veal Parmesan with prosciutto garnish.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Everyone who drinks milk is funding the repeated rape of cows, to be more specific.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the dairy industry heavily subsidized so would anyone paying taxes be doing that too?

Do you pay taxes?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You see part of the problem with the system then. This is why vegans go as far as possible and practicable, because animal abuse is built into everything and is not optional. We're trying to minimize it where we can, and use that momentum to eventually get rid of some of the malevolent built in nonsense we all have to deal with. Nobody should be subsidizing cow rapists and murders, and it shouldn't be a requirement to live here to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your language makes you sound like an anti-abortion nutcase.

Cow rapist!

Baby killer!

It's all the same to someone that doesn't feel as strongly about your beliefs as you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Sorry, do you have another term for the non consensual penetration of someone's ass and vagina? I'm listening.

Turns out the answer was "no". Color me surprised.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

See?

It's the exact same language.

'So what else do you call baby killing?'

It's a question designed with no answer.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (8 children)

lol

How the fuck did you think milk was produced? This is literally grade school biology. Farmers rape cows for their milk, and you pay them for the privilege.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You make it sound like the farmers are all about the cow 'tang.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

They probably get off on fisting the cow's asshole before they even shove the insemination gun in tbh

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

They literally made cow tang their job.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (14 children)

It's like if you pay a hitman to do some murders for you. Are you a murderer? I guess not technically, but 'conspirator to commit murder' doesn't have the same ring to it. Thus we just opt for rapist, since you support an industry that annually rapes cows and kills their calves so that you can enjoy a tall glass of cow juice.

It's ok if that's what you want to do. No judgement here.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

forcible impregnation

Rape. You meant rape.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Impossible burgers cooked right on the skillet are pretty damn good, imo. And easy. I'm no vegetarian but we keep them in our weeknight rotation.

Edit: Connect is messing up and I can no longer see some comments below. The study you cite, SMCF, uses the Nova classification system to define ultra-processed foods, meaning that category contains "soft drinks, sweet or savoury packaged snacks, confectionery; packaged breads and buns; reconstituted meat products and pre-prepared frozen or shelf-stable dishes." This gives you no information on Impossible burgers' impact on cardiovascular disease, it only gives you a trend among people who eat all of the above. I would suspect the reality is Impossible meat contributes to CVD slightly more than straight-up vegetables and significantly less than red meat.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That’s fine, just remember they’re junk food and not the health food people seem to think they are.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They have more protein, fiber, and iron than beef.

Red meat consumption has been shown to increase risks of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and cancer, full stop.

I don't know what a "health food" would be, but I would probably classify them as foods that are healthier alternatives to foods that are proven bad for your health. Which is what "Impossible" etc. are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Health food is anything that isn't processed to hell and back.

Impossible is just alternative junk food. Like vapes are for cigarettes. Healthier still means crap. I'd probably just use mushrooms or tofu as a patty if I wanted an alternative to beef.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Unfortunately, a lot of people are not well-informed about what "processed" food constitutes, to begin with.

According to the Department of Agriculture, processed food are any raw agricultural commodities that have been washed, cleaned, milled, cut, chopped, heated, pasteurized, blanched, cooked, canned, frozen, dried, dehydrated, mixed or packaged.

As such, most of our diet is processed food, and there's nothing wrong with that. If there are particular ingredients that have been added in the processing of any consumer product that are themselves bad for your health, I would definitely encourage abstinence from that product.

While vaping is monumentally safer for one's health than cigarette smoking, both are still a needless introduction of potential harm to one's health, I agree.

But we must eat food, and the harm from that food being vaguely "processed" versus the harm from it containing ingredients certainly known to contribute to stroke, heart disease, cancer, and diabetes just isn't a worthwhile comparison.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who literally thinks they’re a health food? I’ve never met someone in real life that’s told me that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

You’ve never heard people say they’re made from plants so they are healthy?

It’s usually the same people who talk about their nerds or potato chips being gluten free or their Oreos vegan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (11 children)

They're not really a junk food. They're not as healthy as eating straight-up vegetables, but they're definitely not junk food.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Naw, they're fine. Processed food is fine, too. Everything in moderation and a side salad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Another frustrating thing about alternative meat burgers is they are often still using animal products...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Yea, but they also hate the lab grown stuff that's being worked on which is so close to the real thing without all the killing and cruelty and stuff

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