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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Moderates:

Biden has no power, he's just a president!

Also moderates:

Look at these good things that happened while Biden was in office, he did this!

Biden:

Fuck congress, I'll go around them if it's something I want like supporting a genocide or violating human rights at our borders

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Are you serious?

When Dem Congress goes his way, the common parlance is that the president, as leader of the Dems, gets the credit as "he did it". If you want to be pedantic, no he didn't directly do it. It's just common parlance to give the president credit for the things he pushes for.

He can ask the Dem House of Reps and Dem senators to do things, but that is not the same. If Congress says no, there's very little he can do. The President does not have absolute control - to pass legislation takes Congress.

Or things like banning Non-Compete clauses. That was a government agency, which gets appointments. Biden didn't directly make that decision, it came from his (or other presidents) appointments.

Then you have Executive Action (EA) which can be used for some things. You can't use EA for all things. But EAs are not laws, they can be undone by the next president lickity split.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're responding to either a troll or "progressive" who will find any reason to be disappointed and abstain from voting for a Dem. Don't bother.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as other people learn then I'm happy to do it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's much appreciated. There are people who would be swindled by these people if someone like you didn't call them out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There are some things, what you linked twice is emergency action. Another is executive action. But you can't pass laws, pass a budget, etc without Congress.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s gotta suck knowing you will still be voting for him in November.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, I could live in one of the ~45 states where we already know what the result is...

Everybody wants to act like we don't know what votes mean these days. The sad truth is if you're not in a battleground, it doesn't matter who you vote for as president.

Even 08 Obama that flipped a bunch of states, he already had it in the bag without them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good thing there's more than just a presidential race, then. In fact, you can vote in non-presidential races every year (depending on local elections). At the very least every two.

Yeah, battleground states are important in presidential races... but every state matters in congressional and state/local races.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yep, there's even elections in non presidential years!

What's unfortunate is with a Dem presidential candidate like Biden that people aren't excited about, is it makes the down ballot races less likely to win in red states. 08 Obama was fucking huge in that respect, and I'm feeling old now that it's apparently ancient history and no one remember.

Hell, even just 2020 there was that effect because people wanted trump gone and Biden was still an unknown to most Dems nationwide.

Lots of people believed last primary and the promised Biden made.

It's hard to get that goodwill back from voters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It’s hard to get that goodwill back from voters.

Agreed. Most of these people don't understand lots of people still remember the ways Democrats fucked us over during Obama's term.

  • No public option in the ACA
  • Kid gloves for the financial sector while people were losing their homes
  • Huge surveillance expansion

And more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I sure as fuck won't. If your dog pisses on the floor and you give him a treat the dog's going to think you wanted to piss on the floor again. That's exactly what would happen if people re-elect Biden. Either start holding your own politicians accountable or quit punching at the people that are

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should have held your politicians accountable and we wouldn't be in this mess

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have any politicians if you are assuming I'm republican.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even worse, someone who doesn’t vote.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I vote for what I want to see in government. And neither right-wing party offers that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you do, so you are contributing to the current shit government

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A no vote is a loud voice saying you do not represent me. Your vote is a capitulation to your fears

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it isn’t. No one can hear you. None of them care. You are saying “I’ll let everyone else decide.” That’s a choice. That’s a vote. A vote to go along and accept whatever happens. Sure, you’ll say you don’t accept it, but you still exist there. You haven’t left.

I’ve been thinking about your username, and I wanted to ask, are you Native American?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And here you are not hearing me. And since I'm sure you are pushing a loaded question, I'm Mexican living on US colonized land

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, you’re doing a bit of colonizing yourself by supporting the US.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typical, no argument so you go ad hominem

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s to argue? You don’t—or can’t—vote. So you really don’t get to complain about anything since you let everyone choose for you. Maybe you should find somewhere else to live that suits your particular taste.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do get a voice and I'm expressing it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What? I can’t hear you over the noise of you complaining and also choosing not to do anything about it unless it’s 100% what you want.