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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nothing about middle east conflicts

Spoken like a true racist, grouping up "middle east conflicts" as if it was a single entity.

Pretty easy actually, Palestinians were there living their lives and having a sense of nationality as Palestinians since the latter years of the Ottoman Empire. Zionists decided they didn't care about that, decided they deserved their ancestral homeland, and western countries helped them militarily to relocate hundreds of thousands of people and murder tens of thousands on top. It's almost quite literally that easy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm Iranian, and there's no hope of going home any time soon. It's perfectly acceptable to lump the middle east in that statement. Show me one conflict in that region that's not black and white.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Show me one conflict in that region that's not black and white.

I assume you mean the opposite. I'll bring you one about your own country.

In the Mosaddegh era, a democratically elected, secular, progressive, leftist leader was well on the way of successful policy for Iranians through the nationalization of the oil industry which, up until then, as you probably know better than I do, was extracted by the British Petroleum with the knowledge and approval of the Shah (thanks to some juicy "contributions" to his personal fortune paid by the British), leaving almost no profit from the Iranian oil to the Iranian people. The British blockaded Iran militarily, and through MI6, with help of CIA, staged false-flag attacks on private businesses through paid actors who pretended to be communists (the party was in Mosaddegh's coalition). They literally bribed local mafias and gave them loudspeakers to pretend they were popular protests to prime people. And the poverty induced by the military economical blockade, summed up with all this shit and much more, made it so that the Mosaddegh government was deposed and the status-quo was more or less restored, and British Petroleum was happy.

Tell me how that's not black and white.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That isn't how racism works.....is racist turning into the left version of "woke"? His comment wasn't even out of ignorance, that is what that area is referred to, and nothing about conflicts in that area (including the topic at hand) is black and white...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Grouping up a whole set of countries, ethnicities, histories and conflicts into a "middle east" category and call treating it all as a homogenous "non-black and white" issue is racist, sorry.

nothing about conflicts in that area (including the topic at hand) is black and white

Thank you for ignoring the inconvenient part of my previous comment. Please tell me how the first Nakba isn't black and white.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is the name of that region and conflicts within it are still conflicts in the Middle East. Still not racist, sorry. You get this worked up over people mentioning Europe or "The West"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If people grouped up every single geopolitical conflict within Europe under a single category of equally non-black and whiteness, they'd be ignorant to do so. When western people do that with the middle east, it's just an excuse to keep their minds free of it and dismiss it all and the responsibility of their governments.

Funnily enough, you know where in middle east there weren't these "non-black and white" issues until three decades ago? Kazakhstan. Uzbekistan. Turkmenistan. Tajikistan. Azerbaijan. Kyrgyzstan. I wonder if there's something black and white about the whole thing now...