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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 100 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yup,. the hypocrisy is so thick you can taste it, and it's bitter with a strong hint of propaganda. the world is lead by assholes, on all sides.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the world is lead by assholes, on all sides.

This is an objectively true statement. Of course the world is lead by assholes.

We all know that power corrupts. Neuroscience has shown that getting power damages the brain's capacity for empathy.

You just can't lead a nation without becoming capable of great evil.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 19 points 9 months ago (12 children)

You just can’t lead a nation without becoming capable of great evil.

Jimmy Carter seems like a decent person.

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[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 63 points 9 months ago (11 children)

It's extremely frustrating to hold the apparently controversial opinion that killing civilians is, consistently, a bad thing.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think Ukraine is known for hiding military assets in things like hospitals.

You can keep trying to make them the same but they aren’t.

[–] anas@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago

Neither is Hamas, nobody believes you anymore.

israel, on the other hand, did plant rifles behind MRI machines, and laptops with plugs that aren’t even used in Gaza.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You may be correct, but the loss of civilian life in Gaza is truly horrific.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

they're not correct; amnesty proved that nothing was hidden in that hospital and that both americans and isrealis were lying about it to their respective populaces.

reminds me of weapons on mass destruction in iraq; they use congress, tv, radio, etc. to spread the lies and then nothing happens when it's proven that they were lying to us.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I am tired of these comparisions. The Ukraine war has a clear good and a clear bad side. The same cannot be said about the Israel/Palastine war. Both parties are equally shitty. There is just one side much more powerful so more capable to commit cruelties. The only clear good people here are the civillians suffering on both sides.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 53 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Seems like both articles should be horrified about a bombed hospital but maybe that's just me.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

Palestine is far more black and white than Ukraine. I'd recommend you read up on it.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 19 points 9 months ago (29 children)

Okay, so Russia Invaded Ukraine. Russia is the Aggressor.

The Hamas attacked Israel, so Israel exterminates Palestine and claims it wants to exterminate the Hamas. The Hamas have committed Warcrimes and hides the self behind Civilians and the IDF does a whole lot of warcrimes too. Both sides are shirt,, just the IDF has done a bit more shit than the Hamas. Theres no good side in this conflict. Both sides want to exterminate each other and sacrifice the Palestinian civilians for this.

I don't know where you see a more black and white scheme in the middle east conflict than in the Ukraine war, but I'm willing to read your explanation.

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (24 children)

Nothing about middle east conflicts is close to black and white. I'd recommend you read up on it.

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

A hospital full of civilians being bombed is bad regardless of the context. There's no point in media outlets spinning shit like this. They're just acting as propagandists for Israel by throwing softballs like this.

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just off reading headlines..is "entering" and "bombing" the same thing now?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Off headlines not.

Off reality Al Shifa is far more destroyed than the Ukrainian hospital.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

i wonder which side this respectable publication is on 🤔

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)

Considering that Netanyahu was having corruption charges levied against him before October 7th... well, from the Israelis I've talked to, the intelligence was there to prevent the attack, and the brass let it happen. War time leaders tend to hold on to power a lot easier. In addition to the gas deposits off the Gazan coast, and the whole beach front property development thing that Israeli corporations are advertising. It's terrible what has been happening in Gaza and the West Bank (obviously) BUUUT, I mean, they're surrounded by much larger countries that are hostile to them. WHY they are hostile, well, that is where cracking open a history book comes in.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago

Netanyahu is just the latest in a long list of demons, the invasion of Palestine didn't start on October 7th.

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[–] S_204@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Last I heard, Ukrainians weren't holding up in those hospitals and using them as launch sites for their bombs....

Once you turn a hospital into a launch site, it's no longer afforded the same protection. Might be wise to avoid doing that in the grand scheme of things.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

An overwhelming majority of news outlets, as well as humanitarian orgs like Amnesty International, and even the WHO, have come out and said they have seen no evidence that al-Shifa hospital was used for any military operations by Hamas. Even the IDF itself has barely tried to justify it. Israel bombed this hospital, killed civilians including newborns children, and so far have provided no reason to believe that it was even strategically beneficial for anything other than the continued mass deaths of innocent Palestinians.

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how it would read if they quoted the Russian military in the headline on the right.

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[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, we have established that the West is racist and supremacist centuries ago, nothing has changed.

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