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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Im not sure what it is, but does anyone else feel terrible after eating these simulated meat brands? Specifically ones like Beyond and Impossible trying to simulate the exact taste

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Actually the opposite for me. Real meat has so much grease in it I often feel bloated after a burger. Beyond meat burgers are fine for me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yup, I hate "beyond meat", it also makes me feel bad. I much prefer regular veggie burgers at this point.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Interesting, I'm not even vegetarian and I really like beyond meat. It doesn't taste exactly like real meat but it is so good in a different way and I get it like whenever I have a chance

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't know, I think it's the mix and intensity of spices that they use, maybe?

And we agree on the idea. I'm not vegetarian but I've long decided that vegetarian-branded food should be judged on its own merits as food, not as "adequate replacement". Like: is this veggie burger yummy, do I enjoy eating it? That's the question, not "is it a good enough approximation to meat". If I want meat, I'll eat meat.

So (good) beef, chicken, veggie burgers: I like them because they taste good. Beyond meat burgers: I don't like them because they make me feel yucky afterwards. That's all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Ive never eaten meat my friend. Just because something is vegan doesnt mean it has to agree with my body

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I've never eaten meat in my life but I don't want important conversations like this shut down by vegan zealots, if it's not good or healthy I want to know.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I can eat several Burger King veggie burgers and feel fine while if I eat the normal whoppers in the same amount I will feel full and bloated afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Beyond and Gardein, yes. Impossible not so much though. The first version messed with me in the same way, but the second version they put out hasn't yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't remember why I don't like beyond tbh, but impossible killed 188 rats to make their products if I recall correctly, it's not even vegan. If it makes you feel sick, there's no good reason to buy it - there's lots of other options out there that taste good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

That's hilarious, I guess its true what they say fanatics always starve.

188 is a crazy low number, you think they only killed those 188 and just let thousands of others infest their factory? Every food prep company is killing way more rats and mice, only caring about those killed for science is silly.