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Figures published by the Welsh Government show casualty reductions as follows for the period January to March 2024, in comparison with January to March 2023:

All severities at all speeds: 811 (2024); 4348 (2023);

20mph. All severities: 300 (2024); 662 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 63 (2024); 144 (2023)

Slightly injured: 237 (2024); 518 (2023)

30mph. All severities: 77 (2024); 1522 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 15 (2024); 343 (2023)

Slightly injured: 62 (2024); 1179 (2023)

40mph. All severities: 74 (2024); 397 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 20 (2024); 98 (2023)

Slightly injured: 54 (2024); 299 (2023)

50mph. All severities: 94 (2024); 273 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 23 (2024); 67 (2023)

Slightly injured: 71(2024); 206 (2023)

60mph. All severities: 214 (2024); 1235 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 71 (2024); 401 (2023)

Slightly injured: 143 (2024); 834 (2023)

70mph. All severities: 52 (2024); 259 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 12 (2024); 73 (2023)

Slightly injured: 40 (2024); 186 (2023)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's no harm involved in going 10mph slower. It adds seconds or a couple of minutes at most to most people's journey times. You say "lazy" as if an easy way to reduce accidents is a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There is. I live in a city with 20million people, everyday a good share of them waste hours stuck in traffic, making it slower only worsened the situation.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you not think the problem is the hours wasted stuck in traffic than a slight reduction in the speed when you aren't? I mean when you are in traffic your speed is 0 and the speed limit could be 1,000 MPH for all the difference it makes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A faster speed limit means cars before the traffic jam start will spend less time on the roads, the less time cars spend out the longer it takes for a jam to start and the shorter it will be.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or, to put it another way, a faster speed limit means drivers get to the next traffic jam faster, making it larger more quickly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Traffic is a flow problem, what you are saying makes no sense. I dont think I will change your mind so we should end this discussion here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Somehow, I don't think you will change his mind, ironically enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They are not commuting through 20mph zones. That's pants-on-head.