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He's still doing genocide y'all.
He's not doing genocide, depending on your viewpoint he might not be doing enough to stop it up to abetting genocide but he's not Netanyahu. Stick to the facts and don't pretend Israel doesn't have agency.
This is one of our resident MAGA propagandists, so they will not be doing anything of the sort. It's questionable if they are even able to do anything of the sort.
It's really nice that people on Lemmy are finally picking up on this.
Biden isn't running for President, it's okay to criticize him.
This "if you're not with us you're with the enemy" shit is gross.
He's directly supplying the genocide. Israel would have run out of bombs by now.
Israel is one of the largest exporters of military equipment in the world, they wouldn't have run out of bombs by now.
Ok, and it'll be genocide here and there under Trump. Until you can provide a solution, stop whinging about the choices that are forced on us.
Silence is support and I am not a genocide supporter. The least you could do is fucking speak out.
Biden isn't even running for president. How the fuck does it matter if I point out he's an evil piece of shit?
You do not have to like it or support it, but the option you are presenting gives you no control.
If you want to sit out in the rain and complain about the rain, that's your lookout. I will take the action that is most likely to possibly lead to less genocide.
By that I mean voting in people who are at least pretending to listen to my desires. Even if in the short term it doesn't solve the problem.
Genocide isn't the weather. It's being done by people and that means we can fucking stop it.
You have to speak out if you want genocide to stop or it will never end. Israel will kill and kill until all 2.2 million people in Gaza are exterminated, and in the meantime they're going to start fucking World War Three and drag us down with them.
You've completely given up on changing anything until next year, haven't you? Holy shit.
What you're doing is the same as the weather. "I hate this! I will become ungovernable until someone fixes this! Blah blah whine!"
What do you propose then? Because aside from direct action that is dubiously legal, I am doing what I can. I await your genius plan to stop what's happening in Gaza. I'm sure you'll have it any day now.
Edit: unless this is your plan. I wish you luck with "be surly on lemmy."
It's the strategy of contention. Being "ungovernable" pressures the government, there's a toolbox of available mechanisms for doing this and one of those tools is your voice! You need to speak out at every opportunity and make it very clear that you oppose the genocide. It costs you nothing besides your internet points.
Don't doubt that politics of contention are half the reason Biden was forced out of the race! People opposed him as the nominee and donors knew this, so they pressured him to drop out. Granted, they claim the only reason was because he was too old (and he is) but don't doubt that the uncommitted movement helped to push him out of the race.
Direct action gets the goods, but it's not the only thing you can do. You can always always raise your voice in opposition.
You aren't going to help Trump by attacking Biden. It's okay.
So, be surly on Lemmy. Good luck!
You're right, no one should post anything on the internet.
I'm not right. But you will get far more traction if you post more than "lol Adolph Biden lol."
That's not discussion or helpful. We are aware.
Him, most other world leaders, most of the populace, etc etc. Under your definition nearly everyone is an evil piece of shit. /Shrug
Here I am preparing dinner instead of stopping dictators from committing genocide… I guess Im also evil then… 🤷🏻♂️
Ah, and there it finally is.
Liberals advocating for genocide, again.
Ah yes the veritable core of liberal thought, the extermination of brown people. It's a shame the left can't find anything else to talk about, like health care for all, taxing the rich, curbing pollution and ~~anthropomorphic~~ anthropogenic runaway global heating etc. etc. Nope, it's just kill kill kill.
You should put a /s at the end, the moron you are replying to probably doesn't understand your sarcasm.
This is whataboutism
Whataboutism is when my biases are revealed and I have no strong arguments.
"Please post about this issue in a different thread so I can conveniently ignore it. I might even down downvote it so it doesn't get any traction, but don't ever bring this topic up when we're circlejerking our beloved president who's funding a genocide"
Showing how weak your arguments are against funding a genocide is not the flex you think it is.
Pointing out hypocrisy isn't whataboutism. Whataboutism would be distracting from the issue with something unrelated.
But aiding and abetting a genocide is, in fact, racist. I have to point that out because no one seems to care anymore.
I think your comment is being interpreted as "Biden supports Israel, so vote Red." However, you're likely just pointing out the flaws in Biden.
Perhaps you should include the intent of your comment so people do not misunderstand your goal.
Keep in mind that we operate in a FPTP voting system that favors two parties, thus many people will assume criticism of a candidate is a tacit endorsement of the opposition.
The left has enough trouble fighting amongst themselves that people are sick of the lack of cohesive strategy.
Ikr, he just murdered trump and he’s what? 100?
So would trump. I hope the high from your farts equals the high ground you feel like you have.
And what outcome do you have from voting that isn't genocide? You either have implicitly helping genocide through weapons or explicitly helping by backing Israel no matter what and getting US troops involved. And not voting is just helping the latter side. It sucks and we definitely need to protest more and apply pressure how we can but there aren't really that many choices for us through voting.
No one is voting for Biden! He's not running for President!
You are free to speak out against him now, don't you get it?
I was also free to speak out against him before and did, but that didn't change that I was gonna vote for him even though I have some problems with him. And the same applies to Kamala as well, who at least on Palestine and Israel seems to have the same exact position as Biden.
This the is the USA brother. Genocide is our game. We gotta get the right people in charge to change that. And Trump is definitely not anti genocide.
If you just want me to say fuck Joe Biden then sure I'm not married to the man. I wish he had more balls to take these public stances earlier than right before an election.
Wasn't he working on a cease fire? I stopped following after all the "genocide joe bots" flooded this place. They really didn't help the cause.
Even if what you say about the Dems weren't misleading, what's our other option?
Is your Lord, Savior, convicted felon, and proven rapist and pedipholile Donald Trump a friend to the Palestinian people?
Protest, strikes, boycotts, mass demonstration, and voicing your dissent however you can.
Do not be silent. You are not helpless.