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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ID residents should be banned from receiving medical care in WA.

But I think accelerationist policies often hurt vulnerable people...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They can go to their own hospitals instead of placing the burden on Washington

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sure. But this is kinda just accelerationism/xenophobia, no? For example, replace "Idaho" with "Mexico" in your argument, and it gets pretty ugly pretty fast IMHO.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mexicans are sick and tired of Americans and their medical tourism coming down to Mexico for affordable health and dental care

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are they? They seem to be happy to take our money.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does it? I think Canadians have hospitals and they can use those. Not seeing the ugly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m seeing you being slapped in the face with their point and just refusing to acknowledge it. Cringe AF.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There is no context that provides for bad faith exchanges. And I don’t engage with bad faith actors other than to call them out. If you want respect and well reasoned engagement you have to provide the same or else people will ignore you, like I am going to do, or block you, which only exacerbates your echo chamber. Best of luck, Citizen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

lol. I was asking them because if they didn’t, I would explain why people from Idaho are a drain on Spokane’s healthcare. Instead, they ran away. Hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My friend, that was already explained in this thread. I think people just generally have a problem with denying people medical care for any reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

“My friend” means “hey asshole”

Don’t be a dick. Also, not my fault they didn’t read the thread.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

They clearly aren’t the kind of person who participates in rational conversation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ran away before learning. Lame.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And what, die? I think keeping people alive and preventing unnecessary deaths should be the priority first and foremost. Idaho should be made to improve their healthcare infrastructure, and then we can force them to stay in their state.

But as of right now, the idea of turning someone down at the hospital because their ID says a different state does not sit well with me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Idaho needs to help Idahoans, and not push them onto another state.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So... Nobody should work across state lines... In the "United" states... Doesn't sound very United.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Work? Not what I said, but feel free to create your own narrative while I ignore you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If people work across state lines, or travel at all, they need hospital services. You didn't say it, but a moment of thought would have revealed the implications.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If they are in the state and have an emergency, fine. But anything else they really need to burden their own tax payers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok so why not just federalize health and bypass this me me meeeeee histrionic problem?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m fine with that as long as states don’t get to make laws that affect federal hospitals thereby pushing people to other states to create an unneeded burden on the out of state hospital.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just... Pay for capacity in your population centers in some equitable way.

OH, OH!!! you could run for healthcare as a public service instead of a profit center 🤡

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think you know what a hospital looks like when it is over capacity 🤡 but keep on talking like you know stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I make a point to avoid backwater 3rd world countries like the USA

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You could do your own homework and make an educated guess, but you won't, so I guess I have to spoon feed you an answer of "Canada"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Why would I make assumptions about where you live when I can just ask you?

And for a Canadian, you have a pretty unhealthy obsession with the United States. 🍁🤡

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the hospitals in Washington are routinely over capacity, then thats a Washington problem. People have the freedom here to seek treatment wherever they would like to.

And everyone has to pay, inside or outside the state. Noone gets out of medical debt just by crossing state lines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Every hospital in the world has a capacity they can support. You must be saying “they need a bigger hospital!” Which I’m sure they are aware of, but building that and staffing that isn’t always feasible with the budget they are given.

And not everyone has to pay. The hospital there is a charity and provides care regardless of the ability for the patient to pay—which cuts into that budget for more staffing and buildings.

During Covid, Idaho pretty much threw their hands up and said “go to Spokane” where people were lining the halls on beds dying because they didn’t have enough respirators for that many people.

So, it’s a common opinion in Spokane that Idaho needs to fuck off and take care of their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Charity and providing care to those who present themselves are not the same thing. You might be right though that they don't bill some people, but that would work the same for citizens of both states.

Do I have it right that you blame Idahoans for coming to Washington hospitals which might mean more Washingtonians die?

Does it really matter what state the person is from who dies?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Make Idaho reasonably sustainable for the first time!! ;)