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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

And moving to a different, more decentralized shithole?

Lemmy has the same power tripping admins and mods, just more of them and each with a new and unique bias. You don't hate AI? Ban. You acknowledge certain genocide? Ban. You made fun of my typo? Ban.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Unlike the reddit, you can always make your own instance and host your own communities and nobody will ever ban you. That's the whole point of being distributed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same as subreddits. The problem is most communities are on .lm and .world, and already established.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Again, the point is that nobody can ever stop you from running a community as you see fit, unlike reddit, which easily ban you and your community for any or no reason. And if your community is run well and the other has indeed power-trippin mods, the people will come to yours, as has happened multiple times before. So no, it's not the same shithole, unless you make one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not the same shithole, a more decentralized one.

And if shitty moderation would mean people leave, reddit wouldn't have any users. Alas...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

People do and have left communities in the past. /r/Marijuana to /r/trees comes immediately to mind and there have been many many others. But leaving for an entirely different service has a way higher executive cost. Once people are in the fediverse however, the cost to switching primary communities is not that high, and we've seen that away when people moved from [email protected] to [email protected] due to mod actions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You did not make fun of my typo? Believe it or not, also ban.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

We have the best commenters. Because of ban.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Wrong instance I guess. Yeah, Lemmy.ml, Lemmygrad and hexbear are toxic as hell, but there are really nice instances out there. I chose dbzer0 and it's great here. We also have many interesting threads about locally hosted FOSS AI. db0 himself is quite involved in this topic, he's the initial author of things like AI Horde. Basically everyone on db0 I've seen acknowledges the active genocide that's being conducted by the Israeli fascist government. Other topics on the instance are anarchism and of course piracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which is great, but for "news" there seems to be one major community and even then there's like 3 comments on the typical post. Any "news" communities on other instances have zero.

I have very popular hobbies (football, formula1, to name a few) and there is no community for them. Just not enough users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's exactly why more people need to leave Reddit and other corporate social media platforms

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yes, they need, but for "normies" there's little reason to, and you have the first mover penalty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Public modlogs and federation help fight this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Helps document this, does little to fight it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As a user from @programming.dev you should know the importance of documentation, and the log being easy to read should help the users to fight it themselves. As in by making their own communities/instances as needed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As a user of programming.dev I know that 99% of users don't read the documentation and just go for whatever is easiest / less effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As if finding the log takes more than a few seconds, took me like half a minute looking for it for the first time when i wanted to check a users deleted comment history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good for you, that's probably the most important feature for the average redditor, not content relevant to them...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Helps document this, does little to fight it.

Oh excuse me, i merely thought from your other comment that you actually cared about user participation, as opposed to passive content consumption, silly me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how documenting a user's deleted comment history helps with abusive mods and admins, or promotes either participation or consumption. Care to enlighten me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

nah i don't care for giving tours to bad faith actor, especially to something that is a click away.

If you're not arguing in bad faith i suggest instead catching up on reading comprehension, because your reply doesn't logically follows from mine unless you're trying your very best to misinterpret me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

You're the one that suggested reading logs helps. Burden of proof and all that.