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“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What now "genocide" folks?

Still think Trump is the better choice for Palestine and Gaza??

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

Oh I know. It was to call them out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I replied. Feel free to read it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Rather unfortunate for you that the folks complaining about dnc being 100% complicit and funding the genocide, have never ever claimed that Trump is the better choice.

Also I love the genocide in quotes, really says all you need to know

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It’s not that the claim he’s a better choice, the claim that he’s not a worse choice.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So we should be happy that our best option is moderately less horrible than our worst option and pretend we're ok with that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

moderately

🙄

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For Palestinians he is slightly worse if not the same. So if that is the criteria for the choice, there is insignificant difference between them.

The difference might be to be killed in a few days (Trump) vs a few weeks to months (Harris).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well at least you’re admitting he is the worse choice for Palestinians, so that’s a start.

He’s also far, far worse on every other issue I can think of, such as those directly impacting Americans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Him being worse doesn't make Harris good, she is just not that bad.

For people voting on that basis might decide immediate death would be better than definite death after prolonged suffering. That makes him better.

Gaza is a foolish hill to die on and make a choice on. Nothing you do or choose is going to make a difference.

He’s also far, far worse on every other issue I can think of, such as those directly impacting Americans.

He is no different than all the despots and dictators America has exported. He is no different than the founding fathers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

He is no different than the founding fathers.

Yikes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

He is no different than all the despots and dictators America has exported. He is no different than the founding fathers.

What a mind numbingly stupid thing to say.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

US politics is a zero sum game

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

American politics are unanimous on this issue. Biden complained Obama was being too hard on Neyanyahu. All Obama wanted is for Israel to stop bombing the innocent people in Gaza (and he asked Israel to halt building settlements for 3 months). Biden said that Obama was asking for too much and could risk Israel stop listening to the US. We reached this moment BECAUSE of Biden.

Trump sees how Washington is congratulating Biden while it's the liberal college students condemning him. That's a win-win situation in the mind of Republicans. In Trump's mind, bombing Palestine is good because Biden is getting away with it. Trump is saying he can do it better but isn't that what Trump says with everything. Is Trump new to you? Biden set this up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Biden said that Obama was asking for too much and could risk Israel stop listening to the US.

So in your version of events, was Biden right that Israel would stop listening to the US? Like is Israel not listening to the US because Biden was unable to convince Obama? Or are you saying Israel does listen to the US and Biden is making Netanyahu do things he doesn't really want to do?

Really not sure what your point is here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

was Biden right that Israel would stop listening to the US?

There's nothing Israel is doing that Biden wants them to stop. So, this is hard to judge.

because Biden was unable to convince Obama?

The opposite. Obama wanted Israel to slow down attacks on Palestinians. Biden talked Obama into to applying less pressure (and Obama was not asking for much to begin with).

Biden is making Netanyahu do things he doesn’t really want to do?

I suggested nothing of the sort.

Really not sure what your point is here.

It was a rebuttal to a comment someone else made.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

American politics are unanimous on this issue. Biden complained Obama was being too hard on Neyanyahu. All Obama wanted is for Israel to stop bombing the innocent people in Gaza (and he asked Israel to halt building settlements for 3 months). Biden said that Obama was asking for too much and could risk Israel stop listening to the US. We reached this moment BECAUSE of Biden.

Sure is neat how a VP can differ from a president when it's in favor of Netanyahu.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I think Biden's take on Palestine is insane. It's like he as a personal stake on the continuation of making Palestinians miserable . Why do people still defend on when it comes to this? The best thing for these Democrats to do is what Harris is already doing; not talking about it since her plans on this issue WILL NOT help her campaign.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Why do people still defend on when it comes to this?

Because they also support genocide. There has never been and never will be another reason.