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[–] [email protected] 175 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Linus is from Finland. Finns barely tolerate Russians under usual circumstances. These are not usual circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

True he could have banned them long ago, it's his project in the end, but he didn't, he only did it after the sanctions

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If he did that that would have been genuine discrimination. If he has to do it now because of sanctions, then ok fine. But otherwise I don't want to see an open source project treating people differently based on where they were born.

Come on lemmy, how is this pro-racism comment upvoted so many times? Please, think.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Oh no, the treaty-breaking, nuke-threatening, war-crime-committing invading force is being discriminated against!

Holy shit, gtfo. Maybe don't be an actual cunt if you don't want people to "discriminate" against you? The guy didn't even fire all Russians, only those tied to sanctioned companies. He did less than should've been done. But that's only because what should be done to Russia at this point is assassinating their leader, disarming the country, executing the army, installing a puppet government that ensures economic and military inferiority, and selling tickets to piss on Putins grave for the rest of the world to blow off some steam.

Edit: here's a view from a Russian, maybe that helps:

https://social.kernel.org/notice/AnIv3IogdUsebImO6i

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I feel the same way about Americans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

We'll let you know as soon as we find a reason to respect your malformed opinion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Look as long as your a NATO nation, we're a perfectly peaceful and reasonable super power with a military that would scorch the earth to ash within 24 hours.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

"Russian" is not a race.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is genuine xenophobia. I like in Poland, and its like you're either a homophobe, or a xenophobe- with pretty limited inbetween. (And there are plenty of people who are both)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And Russians are peaceophobes? 😆

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah, yes. Russia. A paragon of moral societal standards and behavior.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Linus's dad was a Finnish communist and lived in USSR for some time, one can say a VIP person. You actually lack the context to realize how important this is. Many people of such connections (not accusing Linus, no) are usually still connected to Russia's regime more than, ahem, me. The documents about just whom that encompasses are still secret in Russian archives. Well, technically one can get a permission, but random people are refused it.

Finns barely tolerate Russians under usual circumstances.

Yes, we know that, massacring Russian civilian population during 1917-1918 and then doing that David-n-Goliath thing in the Winter War, which is the only thing they want to remember, and then 1941-1945 with Finnish troops participating in the blockade of Lengingrad and making concentration camps for civilian population, again.

I don't get how that should work in Linus's favor, though.

Oh, and also during the Cold War the foreign country most integrated into USSR's MIC was Finland. Not something of the Warsaw Pact ones, but Finland.

You're telling me they barely tolerated building warships for USSR, right? Poor guys.

And then people in the Interwebs are asking why some average Russian doesn't go and rebel or blow up FSB buildings or something. I wonder the fuck why.

That's why.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just so we're clear, your opinion is that Russians working for sanctioned companies should remain as maintainers of the kernel because Torvalds is a Finn and that he's obligated to Russia because "Finland bad"?

So, therefore, Putin can and should exploit access to the kernel via these Russian maintainers because Finland is somehow historically worse than the USSR?

Am I misunderstanding you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, just that things said are inconsistent and partially wrong

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sound like they are racists to me

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's like calling a Native American racist for disliking European (white) Americans. Like sure, technically, but aren't there some underlying issues at play that make the feeling more justified.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Technically America belongs to Native Americans and the occupation of their soil is still going but you don't hear racists tantrums against europeans. Perhaps you should study Native American culture i believe you can get something from it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I think many racists do in fact say Native Americans are throwing racist tantrums when they work towards gaining even the most basic of human rights.