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This is ridiclous

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (5 children)

So many people referring to using the button to turn the computer off, but more than 95% of the time, you use the OS to turn a computer off. It’s only when there’s a malfunction you would need to turn it off with a hardware button.

This button is primarily for turning the computer on.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sure but you still need to turn it on though?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This button is primarily for turning the computer on.

Sure but you still need to turn it on though?

?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I'm trying to say that it's still a useful button to have in an accessible spot because, exactly as you said, it is still used to turn it on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not even 0.5% of the time you're interacting with the computer would you even think about the power button. Maybe in the first week because "lawl it's on the bottom, Apple so stoopid." Then you'd just get used to poking under the bottom of the computer and it turns on.

IMO this is infinitely better than on the back like the old Mac mini. My mini is behind my headphone amp, and under a monitor so any time I need to hit the power button it's a LONG awkward reach.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's assuming there's sufficient space. Even then if you look at the picture, you can see that the power button is on the bottom of the back side of the device. This makes it even harder to reach than if it were simply on the back since you'd need to contort your finger on top of a long awkward reach.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A short press of the power button shuts down almost any computer in existence, why would you use the OS?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's still the OS doing it, it's just reacting to the power button press like any other input device.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You are unbelievably pedantic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was going to downvote you when I realized

Yeah, that isn't a important distinction in a discussion about power button locations

He really is pedantic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Not if you hold the power button. Yeah if you single press a power button, the os can divert that, but long press, the SMC will cut power. Similarly how, pressing and holding the power and the volume down button on a phone, cuts power, even if the OS is hard frozen. Sometimes you just need an emergency exit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

True but that's extremely rare for people to do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

True but if you can't do it, you are pretty screwed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Someone who isn't a pedant would interpret "using the OS" as going through the start menu, or equivalent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You raise a good point

Honestly for me it's muscle memory from the Windows 95 days of "it is now safe to turn off your computer" but I also don't trust the OS to correctly interpret the ACPI signal sent by the power button 100% of the time. Obviously I'm not an average user, but I could see where an average user might consistently single press the power button to turn off a computer

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I assume there will be a power button on the keyboard or mouse. This is just sort of a backup.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You assume everyone uses Apple keyboards

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

I don't, but apple does. This is why the touch ID is in the keyboard. To be fair it does come as a unit if you buy the mac new.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well like a lover you must reach behind and underneath to turn them on!

...I seriously do not like Apples design language that basically requires me to fondle unseeable parts of the computer to find the power button. Too much risk of spiders back there!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Too much risk of spiders back there!

Found the Australian.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I turn off my computer everyday maybe I'm one of those crazy ones. I think they did that so people would be discouraged to turn it off. They want the users to use their new AI feature. My other thinking is marketing if people talk about your product that's probably a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Can't listen in if the computer is turned off!