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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Basically if you're a communist you're already on the left. So if you're to the left of communists, what are you? An ultra communist.

They're the people who can usually recite whole quotes by heart and have bookmarks and notes in all their books. But when it comes to translating that theory into the real world, nothing is ever good enough because it doesn't follow what Lenin or Bordiga wrote to the letter. They're the embodiment of if you can't do it perfectly, then don't do anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Ultras and leftcoms in unions are hard to work with. Luckily(?), they don't last long.

Go on strike with small union presence, maybe half of which actually joins the action, if you're fortunate.

Win something.

The ultras and left coms leave because the strike didn't lead to twenty-third century fully automated luxury communism. Then they cross the picket line the next time the union takes action and sneer at the striking workers for their betrayal.

Alternatively, they stay in the union and accept no compromises because nothing but full capitulation of the bourgeoisie is good enough. Then proceed to make empty statements about never surrendering, undermining every plan that might build some of the solidarity necessary to achieve exactly that.

Worse than liberals. Worse than neoliberals, who sometimes join unions and sometimes even pickets. And those that don't are happy to be consistently against unions, so at least you know what they're up to. Maybe I'm just bitter.

Advice: if you spot ultra or leftcom in a union, try to make them see things from a proper historical materialist viewpoint before the striking kicks off.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lenin

No, most of them don’t even like Lenin because he seized power in a coup and did non-absolutely perfect stuff as the first leader of an actual socialist state.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well there was Bordiga, who was described as "more Leninist than Lenin".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"Hey Bordiga! Who were the true great and authentic revolutionaries of the world?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

A hint to anyone reading: he died the same way a rat sleeps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

ah yes, bordiga, well known for doing sweet f a, is way more leninist than lenin. 11/10, keep it up. 👍

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In other words, they're dogmatic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Dogmatic like Mel Gibson in Braveheart.