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A 15-year-old boy was sentenced to life in prison for fatally stabbing a stranger, Muhammad Hassam Ali, after a brief conversation in Birmingham city center. The second boy, who stood by, was sentenced to five years in secure accommodation. Ali’s family expressed their grief, describing him as a budding engineer whose life was tragically cut short.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think punishment comes first when it comes to murder though

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Is there any data showing that this is more effective for reducing future violent crime?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Taking a murderer off the streets?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean for other people. Of course we can reduce crime if everyone is imprisoned.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Murderers =/= everyone. What a dumbass argument you’re making.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How could you even infer that this was the point they were making? So far off the mark.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

They literally said putting a murderer away for life is like locking everyone up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How does your question take into account the victim's family at all? You may not like it but one of the pillars of justice is seeking a fair and just punishment for the victim and their loved ones. You may not care about the murder victim's family so somebody has to.

You can't act like a crime is all about the perpetrator and their needs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How does the punishment help the family of the victim?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They are describing revenge but don't want to say that word.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, it's for safety.

These kids targeted poor Ali as they thought he'd 'jumped one of their mates' the week before, if they were allowed out and about, they'd likely kill more of the family in their own revenge scheme.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Well what he did was permanent. So unless you can figure out a way to undo it, I think the punishment should fit the crime. Putting him back out on the streets doesn't help the family either so it's kind of a moot point.