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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It seems like the problem is you treat Dem promises the same as actual results. Particularly on climate and immigration, you’re way off- the Biden admin broke records on both of those with deportations and fossil fuel extractions far, far higher than Trump’s.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not just promises. Every one of those policies I mentioned was implemented afaik.

Biden deported a lot of illegal immigrants, but he ended many of the cruel Trump-era policies while doing it. See this comparison.

Do you have numbers for your fossil fuel claim?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Already noticing disinformation with the first point. Not only did Biden continue construction of Trump’s wall, but he also waived environmental protections to get it built faster. So far, he’s deported ~~250x~~ 250% as many people as Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/31/us-oil-production-has-hit-record-under-biden-he-hardly-mentions-it/

https://earthjustice.org/press/2023/earthjustice-condemns-biden-administrations-waiver-of-laws-to-build-border-wall

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

250x?? Literally no, what? Talk about disinfo...

Anyways I'll grant you that he was more anti-immigration than even I knew. Still, the other points hold.

As for the wapo article: Paywall, and I'm at work so I can't use any of my normal bypasses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ah, okay. Sorry for the late response but I think I've said all I need to. Thanks for the debate, it was a good one.