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[–] [email protected] 90 points 6 months ago (3 children)

All of this is just a distraction anyway. It's rich vs poor always has been. We have a huge group of people that should really be allies but are brainwashed against their own interests. It's easy to say they're on the wrong side but we should really be looking to mend the divide in ways that we can rather than further it by stating how morally superior we are.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. It's uncanny how no news source wants to call out the class divide and instead focuses on the partisan divide

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

It's not that strange when you consider they are a major tool in the class war. We do still have elections, and so whoever the ownership class can't buy they need to have their outlets convince us not to vote for.

There is no "unbiased" media when it's corporate media.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This rich vs. poor thing would be a hell of a lot more believable if there weren't so many poor people who were gigantic fucking bigots.

How do you mend a divide between people who exist and people who hate their existence?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

by attacking the media structures and funding that manipulate them. (this is not a fix all solution. obviously. but it is taking action against the most materially funded arm of the propagation of conservative values. i hope it can be one of many tools leftists use to push for justice and dignity.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Their parents manipulate them.

The "media structures" aren't the ones telling them to yell the F- word at queer people or just straight up murder them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

in a crazy twist, both parents and conservative media exist. and what world do you live in? i see conservative media call for homophobia and homophobic violence all the fucking time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And those parents would still exist regardless.

More to the point, these bigots exist right now.

You want queer people and people of color to make up with people who would literally kill them because they're both not rich. Do you think that's what those bigots want? Do you think if a queer couple went over to some violent queerphobe's home in a trailer park with a bouquet of flowers it would go well for them?

Do you know how many queer people are murdered in the U.S. every year? Here's a link to the 2024 list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBTQ_people_in_the_United_States#2024

It's not the billionaires doing the murdering.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I offered a systemic solution to one element of a systemic problem and now you are getting angry at me that my single-faceted solution doesn’t cover every minute facet of social change. I am sorry that you cannot accept a single marginal suggestion without going into full on rage mode. Ending the conversation here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

When they stop trying to hurt my friends, I'll be the first to present an olive branch. Yes, we should create class solidarity, but you can educate the willfully ignorant.