MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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Well, you see, if you criticize a trans person's politics, that's transphobia. Doesn't matter if their politics are orthogonal to their transness, and it doesn't matter if you, yourself, are trans.
Just look at Israel to see how this works.
No I think they’re putting words in OP’s mouth because I recall some drama where Blahaj members accused sh.itjust.works of being a transphobic instance
Hexbear et co literally have called Blahaj a transphobic instance, numerous times. Lunacy.
Hexbear doesn't count
what's even more fun is how i got banned from blahaj.zone's c/transgender for saying hexbear is extremist and they decided to frame that as "calling trans people extremist".
Like many right-wing fascist-simps-in-arms, plenty know some buzzwords to get people riled up, but don't know when and where to properly use them.
I really appreciate the levels of irony in your comment, whether or not they are intended.
Is the fediverse always like this? Inter-instance shitflinging?
Mostly, no. Usually, it's just .world and .ml that get into slapfights. Hexbear is just bizarre.
Hexbear is a horrific mix of trolls and true believers that makes it weirdly toxic.
Would you say the nazis were socialist because they called themselves "National Socialists"?
Anyways, pretty much any time I see trans people talk about that instance, they complain about all the transphobes that gather there (probably to be transphobic to trans people) and mods/admins do nothing about. If an instance is full of transphobia, seems pretty fair to call it transphobic instance.
if you have damning evidence of blahaj’s unchecked transphobia, i suggest you post that rather than comparing the largest trans instance to the literal nazi party. otherwise put down the hearsay stick.
I never compared blahaj instance to nazis. I compared the argument that the name having "blahaj" in it to meaning the instance is inherently free of transphobia to the stupid argument that having "socialist" in its name means nazis are socialists.
I haven't had any personal problems and certainly wouldn't make sure a comparison. Also just realized why its seemed so dead: apparently they defederated with the instance I'm using recently. Seems like they're at least trying something.
cool. however you characterize what you are saying, don’t do it unless you have evidence.
Evidence that many trans people feel they've experienced lots of transphobia there? Would be easy to find that, but I don't care to do that for some off-hand comment. My point had nothing to do with blahaj itself, but rather about how common that opinion is from trans people.
“trust me bro the evidence is all over the place and its so easy to find it would take me 0 seconds but i don’t want to.”
thats you. that’s how you sound.
Also "for an offhand comment"
proceeds to argue over multiple comments and several hours
three hours of debate, no time to pull sources apparently
On this day, meds were not taken.
have a discussion with person i disagree with ❌
call them mentally ill ✅
love this place
Choose to keep stupidity to yourself ❌
Actively choose to say insane shit ✅
"Why are people calling it crazy to say unhinged shit without prompting"
Fun fact you can fit a lighbulb into your mouth but cant get it back out without it breaking.
Dislocation of the jaw and unhinging doesnt count, the snake people can go back to Reno where they belong.
I am choosing to say insane nonsequiters for my own amusement.
hey can you please tell me what to do if you do put a lightbulb in your mouth?
please respond quickly.
Urgent care.
NGL, literal snake people from Reno would make for an excellent comic book, movie, or Fallout mod 😄
Gotta love the tankies and China, just because the ruling "party" of China has the word "Communist" in their name doesn't mean they're not an authoritarian dictatorship lol
Is the unopposed transphobia in the room with us right now? I don't see it in the meme communities I'm subscribed to there.
I don't really pay attention to which instance I'm in and don't really see all the much transphobia in general, but like I also don't read through the comments on the types of things that would attract transphobia (things like talks about banning trans people from participating in sports, for example - no meme communities). Just pointing out what the argument is of those who have beef with blajahzone.
I'm not convinced the complainers are actually trans. Tankies are notorious liars, after all.
Seems like a weird schtick to post primary in trans communities just to make in 1 in 1000 comments a complaint about their own experiences in a specific community. But sure, you get to be the arbiter of who gets to count as real trans people.
thx.
I've been waiting for some unilateral power.