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The fire service is incredibly right wing, the IAFF didn't back Kamala because trump supporting firefighters would have an aneurysm if they did despite it being in their best interests. She's pro union and Trump is anti union. It's a no brainer that a union should support her.
I'm a firefighter. Basically everybody I work with is a rabid trump supporter. They're extremely opinionated but are completely ignorant on basic politics. For instance we were talking about Ukraine, they were saying Trump would end the war immediately. I said yes by withholding support so Ukraine is forced to make concessions to Russia, which is what Trump has stated he'll do. I shit you not one of them said "No I think Trump will just go up to Putin and say 'You have to stop this or we're gonna fuck you up' and Putin will listen because he knows Trump means business." I used to think it was difference of opinion but they truly are just completely uninformed, the shit they say makes no logical sense.
It's choosing to hope the reality that you see in your head will match the one before their eyes, it's the same thing that always happens with right wing populist movements.
motivated reasoning
If Pete Hegseth is any indication, your both wrong. He seems happy to go to war with everyone.
Past that, Trump's "secret plan to end the war" sounds a bit like Nixon's pledge in '68. Or Obama's promise to leave Iraq in '08, for that matter. Either way, I wouldn't hold your breath.
Garbage in, garbage out. The US media is so thick with propaganda, all any of us can do is choke on it. No such thing as an informed opinion when news media is just Op-Eds on the one end and Ads on the other.
that's exactly what the worst ones want you to think. as soon as you resign yourself to the idea that one truth is as good as another you'll believe any old bullshit.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
okay. as soon as you resign yourself to the exact ideas as you wrote them in your original post, you’ll believe any old bullshit.